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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 780153"><p>I don't think there's any question St. Brown's a smooth route runner with a more developed route tree than Moore, the latter pretty much confined to sideline routes at Missou.</p><p></p><p>A few thing bother me about St. Brown. First, while smooth, he rounds off his breaks. I don't think you can get away with that against NFL corners who will step in front of those throws. Second, the fact St. Brown's dad said "no" to him playing special teams at Notre Dame sticks in my craw, the most golden of Golden Domers. It speaks to competitiveness and the team concept. Third, he did not run the cone and shuttle at the Combine or Pro Day because of a knee issue. Was that legit? Is it a lingering problem? Or did he know the times would not be good?</p><p></p><p>Moore's a grittier player in keeping with the Missouri vs. Notre Dame cliche. He's more physical and competitive at the ball and he's an enthusiastic run blocker. His breaks are sharper on those occasions where he isn't just running down the sidelines. Those are key traits in the NFL where separation is harder to come by. Moore's best bit of tape, Nelson-like, that I've seen is at 2:54 in the following link despite Moore getting tripped:</p><p></p><p> [MEDIA=youtube]BBW8qh19vgc[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>I don't think that route run that way is in St. Brown's repertoire.</p><p></p><p>I'm also not concerned with Moore's 40 Combine time. I don't see any defenders gaining ground on him once he's in stride. He's a long striding guy but with outstanding quickness evidenced in his cone and shuttle times. It would serve him well to study Adams' footwork.</p><p></p><p>St. Brown's a long strider but I'm not seeing the sharpness Moore demonstrates.</p><p></p><p>St. Brown may have the early lead with the more developed route tree coming in, but I can see why Moore was drafted ahead of him. For Moore, the mental aspect will determine how fast he can close the gap, albeit a pretty big gap. Moore is the superior raw talent.</p><p></p><p>I would not go to sleep on Valdez-Scantling either. The speed is evident. He looks to have soft hands and quickness. He could break college tackles; his 15 lifts were not bad. No telling what kind of numbers he would have put up if his QB had not underthown on nearly every downfield clip. He does have the look of a guy who needs to play in space, though. Then there's the level of competition thing and the lack of sophistication at that level.</p><p></p><p>Yancey, Clark...there could be a jump there.</p><p></p><p>We just have to see these guys play in this system in preseason to see who's showing signs of getting it and who isn't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 780153"] I don't think there's any question St. Brown's a smooth route runner with a more developed route tree than Moore, the latter pretty much confined to sideline routes at Missou. A few thing bother me about St. Brown. First, while smooth, he rounds off his breaks. I don't think you can get away with that against NFL corners who will step in front of those throws. Second, the fact St. Brown's dad said "no" to him playing special teams at Notre Dame sticks in my craw, the most golden of Golden Domers. It speaks to competitiveness and the team concept. Third, he did not run the cone and shuttle at the Combine or Pro Day because of a knee issue. Was that legit? Is it a lingering problem? Or did he know the times would not be good? Moore's a grittier player in keeping with the Missouri vs. Notre Dame cliche. He's more physical and competitive at the ball and he's an enthusiastic run blocker. His breaks are sharper on those occasions where he isn't just running down the sidelines. Those are key traits in the NFL where separation is harder to come by. Moore's best bit of tape, Nelson-like, that I've seen is at 2:54 in the following link despite Moore getting tripped: [MEDIA=youtube]BBW8qh19vgc[/MEDIA] I don't think that route run that way is in St. Brown's repertoire. I'm also not concerned with Moore's 40 Combine time. I don't see any defenders gaining ground on him once he's in stride. He's a long striding guy but with outstanding quickness evidenced in his cone and shuttle times. It would serve him well to study Adams' footwork. St. Brown's a long strider but I'm not seeing the sharpness Moore demonstrates. St. Brown may have the early lead with the more developed route tree coming in, but I can see why Moore was drafted ahead of him. For Moore, the mental aspect will determine how fast he can close the gap, albeit a pretty big gap. Moore is the superior raw talent. I would not go to sleep on Valdez-Scantling either. The speed is evident. He looks to have soft hands and quickness. He could break college tackles; his 15 lifts were not bad. No telling what kind of numbers he would have put up if his QB had not underthown on nearly every downfield clip. He does have the look of a guy who needs to play in space, though. Then there's the level of competition thing and the lack of sophistication at that level. Yancey, Clark...there could be a jump there. We just have to see these guys play in this system in preseason to see who's showing signs of getting it and who isn't. [/QUOTE]
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