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Message: <blockquote data-quote="El Guapo" data-source="post: 860506" data-attributes="member: 5830">I think this solves it:[ATTACH=full]4532[/ATTACH]From the NFL rules (this was a new one in 2019), they have to clearly recover in the immediate continuing action. To me that means that in a regular fumble that was not ruled dead, the refs can dig through the pile and discover who has possession (Pokerbrat2000's point). However, if the on-field ruling was a dead ball as it was in the Seahawks game, the replay review needs to show clear recovery in the immediate continuing action. We can debate what that means, but a fair conclusion that it means that the replay shows the ball being recovered by the other team without a doubt and before a pileup ensues.Sullivan appeared to have it but the Seahawks player also seemed to be wrestling for it. I don't think the replay official could call it a clear recovery, and therefore the ball stayed with the Seahawks.One issue that I had was with the head official. He stated that the Packers were challenging the ruling on the field, that it was not a fumble. By those words, our challenge was won because it was indeed a fumble. MLF could have argued that he won the challenge, despite the Packers not being awarded possession, and that we should have been able to keep our timeout and challenge. Maybe that's the wannabe lawyer in me looking for a loophole...</blockquote>

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