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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 758465"><p>As for your second point regarding TT, Since 2012 he's been putting most of the draft capital (and the most notable FA signing in Peppers) into the defense without the expected results. Regardless of whether the problem is the quality of the picks or the coaching, the problem is longstanding without any course correction. The answer in Packerland as we sit today is either "both" or "it's the coaching but Thompson wouldn't do anything about it" or "we don't know and we can't get a clear picture from Thompson and we're not going to muck around with one change or the other and then wait and see."</p><p></p><p>As to the first point, if McCarthy said, "We need a TE", consider the moving parts that go into that:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Who's available in free agency?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Who's available in the draft?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">How deep is the draft at that position?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Who do we think we can get at which pick that represents good value?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Can that guy contribute now or is the draft primarily developmental guys?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">If we take a TE in an upper round, what other need is not being filled?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">If we like a guy at a particular draft position but he's off the board, what's plan B?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">If free agency is the best route, how much will we have to pay?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">If we go with free agency, how does that cap hit affect the other needs on the table?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">And if we target a free agent but he goes elsewhere, what's the plan B?</li> </ul><p>You would expect McCarthy to prioritize the need within the context of the offense.</p><p></p><p>You would expect Gutekunst to provide his assessment of the current roster and the free agent and draft landscapes .</p><p></p><p>You would expect Ball to provide an assessment of cap implications from a multi-year perspective.</p><p></p><p>What you would hope to come out of it is a consensus that, "plan A is this, plan B is that", or we don't see a good option without overpaying or reaching so what's next? Or how about a big college WR who can run the TE routes out of the slot in rotation but who will drop because he doesn't run 4.5? You know, like Richard Rodgers, but faster? <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Jokes aside, the set-up as we're led to believe at this point is Murphy intends to arbitrate toward consensus, i.e., breaking down "silos" or "fiefdoms" or whatever term you prefer, and get these guys on the same page.</p><p></p><p>One thing's for sure. The days of Thompson sitting in the draft room pouring over his spreadsheets and going with his gut with everybody else in the room just silent decoration are over.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 758465"] As for your second point regarding TT, Since 2012 he's been putting most of the draft capital (and the most notable FA signing in Peppers) into the defense without the expected results. Regardless of whether the problem is the quality of the picks or the coaching, the problem is longstanding without any course correction. The answer in Packerland as we sit today is either "both" or "it's the coaching but Thompson wouldn't do anything about it" or "we don't know and we can't get a clear picture from Thompson and we're not going to muck around with one change or the other and then wait and see." As to the first point, if McCarthy said, "We need a TE", consider the moving parts that go into that: [LIST] [*]Who's available in free agency? [*]Who's available in the draft? [*]How deep is the draft at that position? [*]Who do we think we can get at which pick that represents good value? [*]Can that guy contribute now or is the draft primarily developmental guys? [*]If we take a TE in an upper round, what other need is not being filled? [*]If we like a guy at a particular draft position but he's off the board, what's plan B? [*]If free agency is the best route, how much will we have to pay? [*]If we go with free agency, how does that cap hit affect the other needs on the table? [*]And if we target a free agent but he goes elsewhere, what's the plan B? [/LIST] You would expect McCarthy to prioritize the need within the context of the offense. You would expect Gutekunst to provide his assessment of the current roster and the free agent and draft landscapes . You would expect Ball to provide an assessment of cap implications from a multi-year perspective. What you would hope to come out of it is a consensus that, "plan A is this, plan B is that", or we don't see a good option without overpaying or reaching so what's next? Or how about a big college WR who can run the TE routes out of the slot in rotation but who will drop because he doesn't run 4.5? You know, like Richard Rodgers, but faster? ;) Jokes aside, the set-up as we're led to believe at this point is Murphy intends to arbitrate toward consensus, i.e., breaking down "silos" or "fiefdoms" or whatever term you prefer, and get these guys on the same page. One thing's for sure. The days of Thompson sitting in the draft room pouring over his spreadsheets and going with his gut with everybody else in the room just silent decoration are over. [/QUOTE]
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