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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 757870"><p>It occurred to me just this moment that there is one way to get a glimpse into Gutekunst's scouting ability.</p><p></p><p>According the packers.com bio, he was the lead Southeast region scout for 11 years prior to the last two years as Director of Player Personnel and the 4 years prior to that as director of college scouting.</p><p></p><p>So, why don't we look at the Packer players coming out of the Southeast over the period 2001 - 2011. Why not, indeed. At this moment I have no preconceived notions. I'm working this up as I go along.</p><p></p><p>Now, before we start, I must issue a disclaimer. I don't know precisely how the Southeast region is circumscribed. As best I can tell, the country is divided into 4 regions: Southeast, Southwest, West, and North (or Northeast), but I do not see a named scout for most regions at Packers.com. For the sake of this discussion, I'll define the Southeast as east of the Mississippi and south of the Mason-Dixon line.</p><p></p><p>A first note on UDFAs:</p><p></p><p>The history of UDFA signings is hard to track, but the biggest wins that jump out of my memory are Tramon Williams (2006) and Sam Shields (2010), the former out of Louisiana Tech and latter out of Miami (FL), squarely in the Southeast. While Williams initially signed with Houston, he was released at final cut downs and picked up by the Packers that November. That pickup surely would have had some college scouting input. I think we can say these are instances of 5 star scouting out of Gutekunst's region. If anybody recalls any other notable UDFA instances out of the Southeast during the period in question, feel free to comment (as if that needs to be said <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" />).</p><p></p><p>On to the drafts. Here's the raw list:</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb/draft.htm" target="_blank">https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb/draft.htm</a></p><p></p><p>Here's what I come up with for picks out of what might reasonably be thought of as "Southeast" for the period in question:</p><p></p><p>2011:</p><p></p><p>Round 1: Derek Sherrod, Mississippi St.</p><p>Round 2: Randall Cobb, Kentucky</p><p>Round 6: D.J Smith, Appalachian St.</p><p>Round 7: Ryan Taylor, North Carolina</p><p></p><p>2010:</p><p></p><p>Round 3: Morgan Burnett, Georgia Tech</p><p>Round 7: C.J. Wilson, East Carolina</p><p></p><p>2009:</p><p></p><p>Round 5: Quinn Johnson, LSU</p><p>Round 5: Jamon Meredith, South Carolina</p><p>Round 6: Jarius Wynn, Georgia</p><p></p><p>2008:</p><p></p><p>Round 2: Brian Brohm, Louisville</p><p>Round 2: Pat Lee, Auburn</p><p>Round 4: Jeremy Thompson, Wake Forest</p><p>Round 5: Josh Sitton, Central Florida</p><p>Round 5: Breno Giacomini, Louisville</p><p>Round 7: Matt Flynn, LSU</p><p></p><p>2007:</p><p></p><p>Round 1: Justin Harrell, Tennessee</p><p>Round 3: Aaron Rouse, Virginia Tech</p><p>Round 5: David Clowney, Virginia Tech</p><p>Round 7: DeShawn Wynn, Florida</p><p></p><p>2006:</p><p></p><p>Round 3: Jason Spitz, Louisville</p><p>Round 5: Ingle Martin, Furman</p><p></p><p>2005:</p><p></p><p>Round 2: Nick Collins, Bethune-Cookman</p><p>Round 5: Junius Coston, North Carolina A&T</p><p></p><p>2004:</p><p></p><p>Round 3: Donnell Washington, Clemson</p><p>Round 7: Scott Wells, Tennessee</p><p></p><p>2003:</p><p></p><p>Round 5: Hunter Hillenmeyer, Vanderbilt</p><p>Round 7: Chris Johnson, Louisville</p><p>Round 7: DeAndrew Rubin, South Florida</p><p>Round 7: Steve Josue, Carson-Newman</p><p></p><p>2002:</p><p></p><p>Round 1: Javon Walker, Florida St.</p><p>Round 4: Najeh Davenport, Miami (FL)</p><p>Round 5: Craig Nall, LSU</p><p></p><p>2001:</p><p></p><p>Round 1: Jamall Reynolds, Florida St.</p><p>Round 6: David Martin, Tennessee</p><p></p><p>Now, we don't know what other players Gutekunst might banged the table for that were not picked, we don't know which of these picks where he might have been lukewarm and they were picked anyway, and we've got a couple of #1 picks who suffered early injuries casting in doubt how they might have developed. That said, I have a couple of takeaways:</p><p></p><p>There's a lot of outstanding O-Line value in the mid-rounds and the Collins/Burnett/Shields/Williams D-backfied in the 2005-2010 period would be hard to top.</p><p></p><p>Otherwise, on balance, the overall record is pretty good but it does not say "super scout" to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 757870"] It occurred to me just this moment that there is one way to get a glimpse into Gutekunst's scouting ability. According the packers.com bio, he was the lead Southeast region scout for 11 years prior to the last two years as Director of Player Personnel and the 4 years prior to that as director of college scouting. So, why don't we look at the Packer players coming out of the Southeast over the period 2001 - 2011. Why not, indeed. At this moment I have no preconceived notions. I'm working this up as I go along. Now, before we start, I must issue a disclaimer. I don't know precisely how the Southeast region is circumscribed. As best I can tell, the country is divided into 4 regions: Southeast, Southwest, West, and North (or Northeast), but I do not see a named scout for most regions at Packers.com. For the sake of this discussion, I'll define the Southeast as east of the Mississippi and south of the Mason-Dixon line. A first note on UDFAs: The history of UDFA signings is hard to track, but the biggest wins that jump out of my memory are Tramon Williams (2006) and Sam Shields (2010), the former out of Louisiana Tech and latter out of Miami (FL), squarely in the Southeast. While Williams initially signed with Houston, he was released at final cut downs and picked up by the Packers that November. That pickup surely would have had some college scouting input. I think we can say these are instances of 5 star scouting out of Gutekunst's region. If anybody recalls any other notable UDFA instances out of the Southeast during the period in question, feel free to comment (as if that needs to be said ;)). On to the drafts. Here's the raw list: [URL]https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb/draft.htm[/URL] Here's what I come up with for picks out of what might reasonably be thought of as "Southeast" for the period in question: 2011: Round 1: Derek Sherrod, Mississippi St. Round 2: Randall Cobb, Kentucky Round 6: D.J Smith, Appalachian St. Round 7: Ryan Taylor, North Carolina 2010: Round 3: Morgan Burnett, Georgia Tech Round 7: C.J. Wilson, East Carolina 2009: Round 5: Quinn Johnson, LSU Round 5: Jamon Meredith, South Carolina Round 6: Jarius Wynn, Georgia 2008: Round 2: Brian Brohm, Louisville Round 2: Pat Lee, Auburn Round 4: Jeremy Thompson, Wake Forest Round 5: Josh Sitton, Central Florida Round 5: Breno Giacomini, Louisville Round 7: Matt Flynn, LSU 2007: Round 1: Justin Harrell, Tennessee Round 3: Aaron Rouse, Virginia Tech Round 5: David Clowney, Virginia Tech Round 7: DeShawn Wynn, Florida 2006: Round 3: Jason Spitz, Louisville Round 5: Ingle Martin, Furman 2005: Round 2: Nick Collins, Bethune-Cookman Round 5: Junius Coston, North Carolina A&T 2004: Round 3: Donnell Washington, Clemson Round 7: Scott Wells, Tennessee 2003: Round 5: Hunter Hillenmeyer, Vanderbilt Round 7: Chris Johnson, Louisville Round 7: DeAndrew Rubin, South Florida Round 7: Steve Josue, Carson-Newman 2002: Round 1: Javon Walker, Florida St. Round 4: Najeh Davenport, Miami (FL) Round 5: Craig Nall, LSU 2001: Round 1: Jamall Reynolds, Florida St. Round 6: David Martin, Tennessee Now, we don't know what other players Gutekunst might banged the table for that were not picked, we don't know which of these picks where he might have been lukewarm and they were picked anyway, and we've got a couple of #1 picks who suffered early injuries casting in doubt how they might have developed. That said, I have a couple of takeaways: There's a lot of outstanding O-Line value in the mid-rounds and the Collins/Burnett/Shields/Williams D-backfied in the 2005-2010 period would be hard to top. Otherwise, on balance, the overall record is pretty good but it does not say "super scout" to me. [/QUOTE]
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