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<blockquote data-quote="net" data-source="post: 170980" data-attributes="member: 200"><p>I have long maintained I would put my vote with Bart Starr.</p><p></p><p>The goal of football is to win championships. Bart won five, lost one.</p><p>Brett won one, lost one. Yes, I know there are mitigating factors, like 32 teams now instead of a dozen. But the talent wasn't as deluted as it is now, either.</p><p></p><p>There is no doubt about Brett Favre's statistics. There is no doubt about his charisma.</p><p></p><p>But you also must look at Bart Starr's time as coach here as well. Bart put 16 seasons as a player and 9 as coach. His devotion to the Packers is without question. He also held the record for awhile for the longest stretch of passes without an interception, a record Favre isn't anywhere near. This is from the Hall of Fame website:</p><p>17th-round draft pick, 1956. . . Precision passer, poised team leader. . .Led Packers to six division, five NFL, two Super Bowl titles. . .NFL Most Valuable Player, 1966. . . MVP in Super Bowls I, II. . .Three-time NFL passing champion. . . In four Pro Bowls. . .Career passing totals: 24,718 yards, 152 TDs, 57.4 completion percentage.From 1960-67, the Packers were 62-24-4 under Starr. </p><p></p><p>Favre has broken the QB starts record by a mile, but Starr held the record of 196 games played, which was broken in 2003.</p><p></p><p>If you are playing fantasy football, Brett Favre by a mile. If you measure who is the person to bring the most championships to Green Bay, it is Bart Starr.</p><p></p><p>I always despise this debate because it's a bit like asking "Who was a better General...Eisenhower or Patton?" Those wanting glory always said Patton, but Eisenhower was the man who organized the effort that saved freedom from the Nazis. Both men were important in history, as are Favre and Starr in theirs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="net, post: 170980, member: 200"] I have long maintained I would put my vote with Bart Starr. The goal of football is to win championships. Bart won five, lost one. Brett won one, lost one. Yes, I know there are mitigating factors, like 32 teams now instead of a dozen. But the talent wasn't as deluted as it is now, either. There is no doubt about Brett Favre's statistics. There is no doubt about his charisma. But you also must look at Bart Starr's time as coach here as well. Bart put 16 seasons as a player and 9 as coach. His devotion to the Packers is without question. He also held the record for awhile for the longest stretch of passes without an interception, a record Favre isn't anywhere near. This is from the Hall of Fame website: 17th-round draft pick, 1956. . . Precision passer, poised team leader. . .Led Packers to six division, five NFL, two Super Bowl titles. . .NFL Most Valuable Player, 1966. . . MVP in Super Bowls I, II. . .Three-time NFL passing champion. . . In four Pro Bowls. . .Career passing totals: 24,718 yards, 152 TDs, 57.4 completion percentage.From 1960-67, the Packers were 62-24-4 under Starr. Favre has broken the QB starts record by a mile, but Starr held the record of 196 games played, which was broken in 2003. If you are playing fantasy football, Brett Favre by a mile. If you measure who is the person to bring the most championships to Green Bay, it is Bart Starr. I always despise this debate because it's a bit like asking "Who was a better General...Eisenhower or Patton?" Those wanting glory always said Patton, but Eisenhower was the man who organized the effort that saved freedom from the Nazis. Both men were important in history, as are Favre and Starr in theirs. [/QUOTE]
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