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<blockquote data-quote="tynimiller" data-source="post: 1054009" data-attributes="member: 6578"><p>Couple things...first the oddity of bringing up he is not elite and correlating that to MVPs is odd...only Eleven players can say they won the MVP and the Super Bowl in the same season...and since 2000 it has happened one time (Patrick Mahomes 2022). This means all but once in the last two plus decades a non-MVP QB has led their teams to a SB win....so who cares about that, reasonably at least. The crazy thing is folks </p><p></p><p>Also we've all discussed this but I don't recognize your name so likely haven't seen all the discussions, but so you blindly take PFF grading for overall offense as the supreme ranking mechanism?</p><p></p><p>If you do this, let's just look at the passing grades...PFF would say that Goff is the 15th ranked QB while Love at 11th, Derek Carr at 4th and Herbert at 3rd everyone with a football brain would say are not having a better year than Goff this year when it comes to passing - dude is ELITE this year. </p><p></p><p>Love, despite his early season issues while playing injured - sits at 13th for QB Rate rankings and 5th at QBR. This is before we get into advanced statistics which some would also point towards Love being a Top 10 QB this year. Plain and simple second half the year Love has been lights out, and has illustrated to everyone he can easily be a top 10 QB in this league and many would tell you he already is.</p><p></p><p>If starting a franchise right now I'd bet there is likely very very few people that would rank him outside the Top10 for picking QBs if in a fantasy type redraft of the whole league....Lamar, Mahomes, Burrow and Allen are likely the three clear guys - but after that you have a cluster of younger or older guys that you have to weight the how long vs how much more type discussion - Goff, Herbert, Hurts, Love likely the group - folks may toss in others but still.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tynimiller, post: 1054009, member: 6578"] Couple things...first the oddity of bringing up he is not elite and correlating that to MVPs is odd...only Eleven players can say they won the MVP and the Super Bowl in the same season...and since 2000 it has happened one time (Patrick Mahomes 2022). This means all but once in the last two plus decades a non-MVP QB has led their teams to a SB win....so who cares about that, reasonably at least. The crazy thing is folks Also we've all discussed this but I don't recognize your name so likely haven't seen all the discussions, but so you blindly take PFF grading for overall offense as the supreme ranking mechanism? If you do this, let's just look at the passing grades...PFF would say that Goff is the 15th ranked QB while Love at 11th, Derek Carr at 4th and Herbert at 3rd everyone with a football brain would say are not having a better year than Goff this year when it comes to passing - dude is ELITE this year. Love, despite his early season issues while playing injured - sits at 13th for QB Rate rankings and 5th at QBR. This is before we get into advanced statistics which some would also point towards Love being a Top 10 QB this year. Plain and simple second half the year Love has been lights out, and has illustrated to everyone he can easily be a top 10 QB in this league and many would tell you he already is. If starting a franchise right now I'd bet there is likely very very few people that would rank him outside the Top10 for picking QBs if in a fantasy type redraft of the whole league....Lamar, Mahomes, Burrow and Allen are likely the three clear guys - but after that you have a cluster of younger or older guys that you have to weight the how long vs how much more type discussion - Goff, Herbert, Hurts, Love likely the group - folks may toss in others but still. [/QUOTE]
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