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<blockquote data-quote="mradtke66" data-source="post: 684803" data-attributes="member: 4199"><p>Define what you mean by the best and then we can argue. I don't like using championships as football is such a team game, so I tend not to say Starr. Was he good? Sure. However, he probably wasn't even the most important player on Lombardi's teams. Hourning probably was, at least until he was used up and Lombardi let him go.</p><p></p><p>I think Starr is over-valued because the modern game values quarterbacks and we can get and understand his role and project it to the modern game. Triple threat HBs like Hourning? Most people don't even know what a triple thread HB is. And let's consider a 1960s FB (Taylor) who was a primary ball carrier and the modern FB who is a battering ram and might get 10 carries in a season (Henderson/Kuhn/et al.)</p><p></p><p>In terms of mechanics, throwing the ball well, hitting the whole route tree, and general athleticism, I'd put Starr about 5th--I have zero confidence in his ability to throw a deep out, for example. His greatest strength, calling his own game, would be minimally used (at best) in the modern game.</p><p></p><p>I'd rate our QBs roughly: Rodgers, Favre, ****ey/Majkowski (tied), Starr.</p><p></p><p>In a similar vein, I don't think Starr was ever (statistically, anyway) the best QB in the league when he played. His best rating was in 1961 when he was 5th. 6th in 1957. The rest of his career? 10th or worse. Pulled from here: <a href="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1972/passing.htm" target="_blank">http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1972/passing.htm</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mradtke66, post: 684803, member: 4199"] Define what you mean by the best and then we can argue. I don't like using championships as football is such a team game, so I tend not to say Starr. Was he good? Sure. However, he probably wasn't even the most important player on Lombardi's teams. Hourning probably was, at least until he was used up and Lombardi let him go. I think Starr is over-valued because the modern game values quarterbacks and we can get and understand his role and project it to the modern game. Triple threat HBs like Hourning? Most people don't even know what a triple thread HB is. And let's consider a 1960s FB (Taylor) who was a primary ball carrier and the modern FB who is a battering ram and might get 10 carries in a season (Henderson/Kuhn/et al.) In terms of mechanics, throwing the ball well, hitting the whole route tree, and general athleticism, I'd put Starr about 5th--I have zero confidence in his ability to throw a deep out, for example. His greatest strength, calling his own game, would be minimally used (at best) in the modern game. I'd rate our QBs roughly: Rodgers, Favre, ****ey/Majkowski (tied), Starr. In a similar vein, I don't think Starr was ever (statistically, anyway) the best QB in the league when he played. His best rating was in 1961 when he was 5th. 6th in 1957. The rest of his career? 10th or worse. Pulled from here: [URL]http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1972/passing.htm[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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