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<blockquote data-quote="Ogsponge" data-source="post: 637155" data-attributes="member: 9358"><p>I seem some of the arrogance I speak off has rubbed on on some posters around here. <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>But thank you for engaging me for once instead of just disagreeing with me expecting that I am like so many of the posters who will never back up anything they say.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I respect everyone's opinion when it comes to talking about the Packers. I like to debate about the team especially when there are such glaring problems, you apparently like to call people Favre-Fans as if that somehow negates anything anyone has to say. I appreciate that you did not flat out say that was the case but said that is how my posts come across and I can appreciate that. So let's clear the air a bit....</p><p></p><p>You are damn right I am a Favre fan, in my humble opinion if you are a Packer fan but not a Favre fan then you are not a true Packer fan. Picking and choosing what you like about a team is exactly what a bandwagon fan does. I love everything about the Packers, good and bad and lets face it, Brett did some crappy stuff but he meant an awful lot to this organization and even remotely trying to deny that is just flat out wrong. But that is entirely another debate.</p><p></p><p>I do not dislike Thompson, McCarthy or Rodgers, in fact in my hierarchy of Packer greats, all three of them would be above Favre in my mystical rankings. So can we please just put to rest any thoughts of me being a Favre fan first? It simply is not even remotely the case. I simply see flaws in regards to the holy trinity of Thompson, McCarthy and Rodgers.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Let me start by saying I have great respect for McCarthy as well but to answer you question about sources, here you go:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/25340/packers-coach-mike-mccarthy-just-win-the-route-or-win-the-play-called" target="_blank">http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/25340/packers-coach-mike-mccarthy-just-win-the-route-or-win-the-play-called</a></p><p></p><p>Here are the parts I am talking about:</p><p></p><p>"“So much is made of scheme,” McCarthy said Friday. “Frankly, I think too much is made of scheme. At the end of the day, it’s about running your routes or defending the route or blocking your guy or getting off the block and eventually tackling the guy and getting the football.”</p><p></p><p>and:</p><p></p><p>“It’s the attention and the details,” McCarthy said. “Our issues are technique and discipline in the technique, and quit worrying so much about the plays. Just win the route or win the play called.”</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong>Full Definition of ARROGANT</strong></span></p><p>1</p><p><strong>:</strong> exaggerating or disposed to <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exaggerate" target="_blank">exaggerate</a> one's own worth or importance often by an <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/overbearing" target="_blank">overbearing</a>manner <an <em>arrogant</em> official></p><p>2</p><p><strong>:</strong> showing an offensive attitude of superiority <strong>:</strong> proceeding from or characterized by <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/arrogance" target="_blank">arrogance</a><an <em>arrogant</em> reply></p><p></p><p>McCarthy could not be more clear, he does not believe there is anything wrong with him or the coaching staff, it is all on the players. He believes so much in his own contribution and worth that it has nothing do with him but is all about others. This belief, by the very definition is arrogance.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, read the definition, sticking to a plan and having such an overwhelming belief that said plan will work, even though it is not working, is again the very definition of arrogance. Draft and develop is not working in the sense the goal is to win championships. And when you have easily the most efficient QB in the history of the NFL on your team and only have one Superbowl appearance in what 8 years to show for it, the plan is not working. This is a team that should be built for an actually championship dynasty but instead is built for a regular season dynasty. Which is great, but they are at the point where new things need to be tried before Rodgers is gone with only one SB appearance to show for it.</p><p></p><p>And guess what? If that is how it goes down than for all their greatness, the holy trinity of Thompson, McCarthy and Rodgers will have done less for the organization than the trio of Wolf, Holmgren and Favre. Think about that for a minute as of right now the current trio for all their greatness have accomplished less than the former trio. If they are so great and so much better than the former, why have they not accomplished more? I believe in the current more than the former but the simple facts right now are they have accomplished less than the former.</p><p></p><p>Finally to wrap up my novella here, I like to debate, i don't like people arrogantly disagreeing with a post and never backing it up especially when they may feel I am a Favre fan first which is exactly what I knew you thought about me as it is your go to statement when people point out any kind of flaw in the current holy trinity. You incorrectly assume, with me at least, that I believe Favre is some sort of godlike figure. Other than my holy trinity comment used on multiple occasion I hope I did a good job of leaving snark out of my post and I apologize for the length of the post, I really just wanted to clear the air.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ogsponge, post: 637155, member: 9358"] I seem some of the arrogance I speak off has rubbed on on some posters around here. ;) But thank you for engaging me for once instead of just disagreeing with me expecting that I am like so many of the posters who will never back up anything they say. I respect everyone's opinion when it comes to talking about the Packers. I like to debate about the team especially when there are such glaring problems, you apparently like to call people Favre-Fans as if that somehow negates anything anyone has to say. I appreciate that you did not flat out say that was the case but said that is how my posts come across and I can appreciate that. So let's clear the air a bit.... You are damn right I am a Favre fan, in my humble opinion if you are a Packer fan but not a Favre fan then you are not a true Packer fan. Picking and choosing what you like about a team is exactly what a bandwagon fan does. I love everything about the Packers, good and bad and lets face it, Brett did some crappy stuff but he meant an awful lot to this organization and even remotely trying to deny that is just flat out wrong. But that is entirely another debate. I do not dislike Thompson, McCarthy or Rodgers, in fact in my hierarchy of Packer greats, all three of them would be above Favre in my mystical rankings. So can we please just put to rest any thoughts of me being a Favre fan first? It simply is not even remotely the case. I simply see flaws in regards to the holy trinity of Thompson, McCarthy and Rodgers. Let me start by saying I have great respect for McCarthy as well but to answer you question about sources, here you go: [URL]http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/25340/packers-coach-mike-mccarthy-just-win-the-route-or-win-the-play-called[/URL] Here are the parts I am talking about: "“So much is made of scheme,” McCarthy said Friday. “Frankly, I think too much is made of scheme. At the end of the day, it’s about running your routes or defending the route or blocking your guy or getting off the block and eventually tackling the guy and getting the football.” and: “It’s the attention and the details,” McCarthy said. “Our issues are technique and discipline in the technique, and quit worrying so much about the plays. Just win the route or win the play called.” [SIZE=5][B]Full Definition of ARROGANT[/B][/SIZE] 1 [B]:[/B] exaggerating or disposed to [URL='http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exaggerate']exaggerate[/URL] one's own worth or importance often by an [URL='http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/overbearing']overbearing[/URL]manner <an [I]arrogant[/I] official> 2 [B]:[/B] showing an offensive attitude of superiority [B]:[/B] proceeding from or characterized by [URL='http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/arrogance']arrogance[/URL]<an [I]arrogant[/I] reply> McCarthy could not be more clear, he does not believe there is anything wrong with him or the coaching staff, it is all on the players. He believes so much in his own contribution and worth that it has nothing do with him but is all about others. This belief, by the very definition is arrogance. Again, read the definition, sticking to a plan and having such an overwhelming belief that said plan will work, even though it is not working, is again the very definition of arrogance. Draft and develop is not working in the sense the goal is to win championships. And when you have easily the most efficient QB in the history of the NFL on your team and only have one Superbowl appearance in what 8 years to show for it, the plan is not working. This is a team that should be built for an actually championship dynasty but instead is built for a regular season dynasty. Which is great, but they are at the point where new things need to be tried before Rodgers is gone with only one SB appearance to show for it. And guess what? If that is how it goes down than for all their greatness, the holy trinity of Thompson, McCarthy and Rodgers will have done less for the organization than the trio of Wolf, Holmgren and Favre. Think about that for a minute as of right now the current trio for all their greatness have accomplished less than the former trio. If they are so great and so much better than the former, why have they not accomplished more? I believe in the current more than the former but the simple facts right now are they have accomplished less than the former. Finally to wrap up my novella here, I like to debate, i don't like people arrogantly disagreeing with a post and never backing it up especially when they may feel I am a Favre fan first which is exactly what I knew you thought about me as it is your go to statement when people point out any kind of flaw in the current holy trinity. You incorrectly assume, with me at least, that I believe Favre is some sort of godlike figure. Other than my holy trinity comment used on multiple occasion I hope I did a good job of leaving snark out of my post and I apologize for the length of the post, I really just wanted to clear the air. [/QUOTE]
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