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<blockquote data-quote="Bruce" data-source="post: 46801" data-attributes="member: 196"><p>He actually is quite good at jumping -- but you are right his trust in his ability and instinct for going for the ball are a growth area for him. Of course all but less than a hand full of NFL CB have significant growth areas and most of them are not 22 years old.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, the penalties were included read the original post, I also included them in what I wrote -- for a complete look at his penalties:</p><p></p><p>Illegal use of Hands 3 times</p><p>9/11 at Detroit all 3 penalties</p><p></p><p>Pass Interference 3 times</p><p>10/3 at Car</p><p>10/30 at Cinc</p><p>11/13 at Atl</p><p></p><p>Defensive Holding 1 time</p><p>12/11 vs Det</p><p></p><p>Delay of Game</p><p>10/30 at Cinc</p><p></p><p>Offsides </p><p>10/30 at Cinc</p><p></p><p>He also had 2 other penalties that were declined</p><p>9/11 Holding at Det </p><p>10/30 Pass Interference at Cinc</p><p></p><p>Interesting that 6 of his 9 called penalties and 8 of his 10 total penalties came in 2 games. Also of note was only 2 penalties in last 9 games. </p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p>Actually that seems to be a point of agreement by all concerned, that he was a young immature kid thrust into a man's job at a position that you play on an island -- he suffered in the cluster fluck defense that Slowik put on the field at 20 years old and showed significant improvement in 2005 under Bates -- especially as the season progressed. </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>This is only half right. Carroll worked out in the offseason and no one ever accused him of being out of shape -- he wasn't. The mistake he made was not taking advantage of optional opportunity sessions, which to his credit he owned up to and called a mistake -- again a sign of his growing and maturing.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>He was being taught a lesson by good coaching by Bates and Sherman -- there was never a doubt that if he took them serious that he would regain his job because he was more than twice the player then the one they put in front of him and ultimately cut.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If the Pack drafts a CB in the first in 2007 it will be to replace Harris not Carroll. Even servicable CB are very hard to find in the NFL -- something that the stats from the original article would seem to support and the big money thrown at CB every offseason in FA further supports. Carroll is far better than a servicable CB -- he is currently a decent #2 CB on a team with incredible physical tools and a huge upside.</p><p></p><p>Carroll would be a great one to use the classic Mark Twain the line, "Rumors Of My Demise Have Been Greatly Exaggerated ."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bruce, post: 46801, member: 196"] He actually is quite good at jumping -- but you are right his trust in his ability and instinct for going for the ball are a growth area for him. Of course all but less than a hand full of NFL CB have significant growth areas and most of them are not 22 years old. No, the penalties were included read the original post, I also included them in what I wrote -- for a complete look at his penalties: Illegal use of Hands 3 times 9/11 at Detroit all 3 penalties Pass Interference 3 times 10/3 at Car 10/30 at Cinc 11/13 at Atl Defensive Holding 1 time 12/11 vs Det Delay of Game 10/30 at Cinc Offsides 10/30 at Cinc He also had 2 other penalties that were declined 9/11 Holding at Det 10/30 Pass Interference at Cinc Interesting that 6 of his 9 called penalties and 8 of his 10 total penalties came in 2 games. Also of note was only 2 penalties in last 9 games. Actually that seems to be a point of agreement by all concerned, that he was a young immature kid thrust into a man's job at a position that you play on an island -- he suffered in the cluster fluck defense that Slowik put on the field at 20 years old and showed significant improvement in 2005 under Bates -- especially as the season progressed. This is only half right. Carroll worked out in the offseason and no one ever accused him of being out of shape -- he wasn't. The mistake he made was not taking advantage of optional opportunity sessions, which to his credit he owned up to and called a mistake -- again a sign of his growing and maturing. He was being taught a lesson by good coaching by Bates and Sherman -- there was never a doubt that if he took them serious that he would regain his job because he was more than twice the player then the one they put in front of him and ultimately cut. If the Pack drafts a CB in the first in 2007 it will be to replace Harris not Carroll. Even servicable CB are very hard to find in the NFL -- something that the stats from the original article would seem to support and the big money thrown at CB every offseason in FA further supports. Carroll is far better than a servicable CB -- he is currently a decent #2 CB on a team with incredible physical tools and a huge upside. Carroll would be a great one to use the classic Mark Twain the line, "Rumors Of My Demise Have Been Greatly Exaggerated ." [/QUOTE]
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