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<blockquote data-quote="PackersRS" data-source="post: 274133" data-attributes="member: 1429"><p>Hawk was perceived to improve in the 3-4.</p><p>Kampman is a fans favorite.</p><p></p><p>I don't think there was any other option, to at least try the players in the new scheme. And my money is still in Kampman coming back.</p><p> </p><p>You compared them in the post before: </p><p>Plus, we know that Matthews is a terrific 3-4 OLB. We have no idea how he would fare in a 4-3, be it as a DE or an OLB. He didn't play with his hands down in GB, and if I'm not mistaken, he didn't in college.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>That's the thing. It's all in theory. I doubt that sticking with the 4-3 would've brought the same results. Thinking about Greg Williams and the Saints might lead to that, but it's not that easy of an assumption.</p><p></p><p>I agree that it wasn't just switching to the 3-4 that made all the difference, but nonetheless the switch is there and so is the result. Pickett was an OK DT, but is a monster NT. Jolly wasn't a good DT, but is a terrific run stopping DE.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Again hypothesis. If we're not in the 3-4, he doesn't look at Matthews, and doesn't move up. What if he selects Aaron Maybin? I don't know if he'll be a good player, but he didn't have much impact this year.</p><p></p><p>And Greg Williams turned it down. Who would've run it? Cel. Sanders again???????? </p><p> </p><p></p><p>A warning sign that your DC played those games the wrong way. Also a warning sign that when you lose your starting CB, and the backups, YOU FRIKIN GET A VETERAN FA, AND DO NOT ALLOW JARRETT BUSH AND JOSH BELL TO STEP ONTO THE FIELD! </p><p> </p><p></p><p>We still would need 2 OLB, and a DT, considering Raji plays the way he's supposed to play.</p><p></p><p>Hawk was even more exposed in the passing game in the 4-3, having to cover TEs and RBs.</p><p></p><p>Chillar was serviceable, but not much.</p><p></p><p>Jenkins and Kampman were great DEs, but no rotation...</p><p></p><p>Pickett and Jolly were only serviceable DTs...</p><p> </p><p>Again, who's to say we wouldn't have the same problems? Actually, we had WORSE problems in 2008. We couldn't stop anyone running the ball and we couldn't get to any QB.</p><p></p><p>It's not a natural progression, the assumption that if we had stayed in the 4-3, we would've gotten 2 players for the front 7, that they would've the same impact Matthews and Raji had, or will have, and that we would be closer to being contenders now.</p><p></p><p>It just cannot be done, that's what I'm saying.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PackersRS, post: 274133, member: 1429"] Hawk was perceived to improve in the 3-4. Kampman is a fans favorite. I don't think there was any other option, to at least try the players in the new scheme. And my money is still in Kampman coming back. You compared them in the post before: Plus, we know that Matthews is a terrific 3-4 OLB. We have no idea how he would fare in a 4-3, be it as a DE or an OLB. He didn't play with his hands down in GB, and if I'm not mistaken, he didn't in college. That's the thing. It's all in theory. I doubt that sticking with the 4-3 would've brought the same results. Thinking about Greg Williams and the Saints might lead to that, but it's not that easy of an assumption. I agree that it wasn't just switching to the 3-4 that made all the difference, but nonetheless the switch is there and so is the result. Pickett was an OK DT, but is a monster NT. Jolly wasn't a good DT, but is a terrific run stopping DE. Again hypothesis. If we're not in the 3-4, he doesn't look at Matthews, and doesn't move up. What if he selects Aaron Maybin? I don't know if he'll be a good player, but he didn't have much impact this year. And Greg Williams turned it down. Who would've run it? Cel. Sanders again???????? A warning sign that your DC played those games the wrong way. Also a warning sign that when you lose your starting CB, and the backups, YOU FRIKIN GET A VETERAN FA, AND DO NOT ALLOW JARRETT BUSH AND JOSH BELL TO STEP ONTO THE FIELD! We still would need 2 OLB, and a DT, considering Raji plays the way he's supposed to play. Hawk was even more exposed in the passing game in the 4-3, having to cover TEs and RBs. Chillar was serviceable, but not much. Jenkins and Kampman were great DEs, but no rotation... Pickett and Jolly were only serviceable DTs... Again, who's to say we wouldn't have the same problems? Actually, we had WORSE problems in 2008. We couldn't stop anyone running the ball and we couldn't get to any QB. It's not a natural progression, the assumption that if we had stayed in the 4-3, we would've gotten 2 players for the front 7, that they would've the same impact Matthews and Raji had, or will have, and that we would be closer to being contenders now. It just cannot be done, that's what I'm saying. [/QUOTE]
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