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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 574247"><p>First of all, you took Nelson's career total of 40 TDs and ascribed them all to Rodgers. Flynn threw 3 TDs to Nelson in the 2011 Detroit game and Rodgers missed 7 starts and nearly all of another game last season. I don't know how many Nelson TDs were in those missed games last year but they'd have to be subtracted from the amended 37 total.</p><p></p><p>I wouldn't get this granular or picky with you except you cited 39 TDs for Schaub-to-Johnson whereas Johnson's total over those 7 years was 44 TDs, so you evidently subtracted out 5 non-Schaub scores. So your TD comparison has a little apples-to-oranges flaw.</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, Schaub-to-Johnson played together for 7 years with Schaub starting about 80% of those games and Johnson a couple more than that. Over that time, Johnson caught 616 balls for 8,708 yds. I don't know the precise numbers for Shaub-to-Johnson, but it's the bulk of those totals. Johnson was a 5-time Pro Bowler and a 2-time All Pro over those 7 years.</p><p></p><p>As noted earlier, I don't know the precise breakdown on TDs for these combinations but I do see that Johnson scored 8, 8, 9 and 8 TDS in the first 4 Schaub years....8+ per year is not too shabby; after that they had problems getting in the end zone. Nelson's 40 were, by season: 2, 2, 2, 15 (minus 3 from Flynn), 7, 8 (minus non-Rodgers TDs) and 4 (so far this year). To date the 15 is an outlier---strike that, it's 12 because 3 came from Flynn--just as James Jones' league leading year of 14 was an outlier. To date, Nelson does not match Johnson's 4 consecutive years of consistent scoring. Nelson's led the <em><strong>team</strong></em> in TDs in only 2 seasons, one of which Rodgers missed half of. Cobb's 6 this year is reflection of <em><strong>him</strong></em> being the current preferred red zone target.</p><p></p><p>Despite the fact the Houston combo couldn't get it in the end zone with regularity after 2010, never put up a double-digit year like Rodgers-Nelson, and the Schaub/Rodgers comparison is so one-sided, when talking about the body of work, the Rodgers-Nelson combo is simply too short-lived. Nelson had only 6 starts prior to 2011 whereas the Schaub-to-Johnson pair was highly productive, to say the least, over double Nelson's time as a regular. Johnson put up Hall of Fame numbers over that period.</p><p></p><p>If you want to rank them on peak performance or where you might project the R-to-N body of work into the future then the comparison gets closer.</p><p></p><p>There tends to be a bias toward the newer, hotter thing and the current fantasy buzz when talking about these kinds of comparisons.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 574247"] First of all, you took Nelson's career total of 40 TDs and ascribed them all to Rodgers. Flynn threw 3 TDs to Nelson in the 2011 Detroit game and Rodgers missed 7 starts and nearly all of another game last season. I don't know how many Nelson TDs were in those missed games last year but they'd have to be subtracted from the amended 37 total. I wouldn't get this granular or picky with you except you cited 39 TDs for Schaub-to-Johnson whereas Johnson's total over those 7 years was 44 TDs, so you evidently subtracted out 5 non-Schaub scores. So your TD comparison has a little apples-to-oranges flaw. Anyhow, Schaub-to-Johnson played together for 7 years with Schaub starting about 80% of those games and Johnson a couple more than that. Over that time, Johnson caught 616 balls for 8,708 yds. I don't know the precise numbers for Shaub-to-Johnson, but it's the bulk of those totals. Johnson was a 5-time Pro Bowler and a 2-time All Pro over those 7 years. As noted earlier, I don't know the precise breakdown on TDs for these combinations but I do see that Johnson scored 8, 8, 9 and 8 TDS in the first 4 Schaub years....8+ per year is not too shabby; after that they had problems getting in the end zone. Nelson's 40 were, by season: 2, 2, 2, 15 (minus 3 from Flynn), 7, 8 (minus non-Rodgers TDs) and 4 (so far this year). To date the 15 is an outlier---strike that, it's 12 because 3 came from Flynn--just as James Jones' league leading year of 14 was an outlier. To date, Nelson does not match Johnson's 4 consecutive years of consistent scoring. Nelson's led the [I][B]team[/B][/I] in TDs in only 2 seasons, one of which Rodgers missed half of. Cobb's 6 this year is reflection of [I][B]him[/B][/I] being the current preferred red zone target. Despite the fact the Houston combo couldn't get it in the end zone with regularity after 2010, never put up a double-digit year like Rodgers-Nelson, and the Schaub/Rodgers comparison is so one-sided, when talking about the body of work, the Rodgers-Nelson combo is simply too short-lived. Nelson had only 6 starts prior to 2011 whereas the Schaub-to-Johnson pair was highly productive, to say the least, over double Nelson's time as a regular. Johnson put up Hall of Fame numbers over that period. If you want to rank them on peak performance or where you might project the R-to-N body of work into the future then the comparison gets closer. There tends to be a bias toward the newer, hotter thing and the current fantasy buzz when talking about these kinds of comparisons. [/QUOTE]
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