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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 727648"><p>Do you have a link to the voter instructions, something that defines "best"? I can't find one.</p><p></p><p>Needless to say, I find the voting criteria, or lack thereof, a lot more interesting than the results.</p><p></p><p>ESPN does a similar less ballyhooed vote where the instructions are somewhat clearer, which when you add it up approximates the proposition, "rank all the players, from Hall of Fame level down to "nobody" right now regardless of position." However, they too leave it open as to how to weight last season vs. a projection for 2017 vs. body of work. Here is ESPN's criteria:</p><p></p><p>"<strong>This is not an MVP vote</strong>. It was a simple process, detailed here:</p><p></p><p><strong>The parameters: </strong>Rate players based on <strong>how good they are -- not what positions they play </strong>or how many endorsements they have. All NFL players were eligible.</p><p></p><p><strong>The process:</strong> Rate every player on a scale of 1-100. A score of 100 implies an <strong>all-time level of excellence</strong>; a 1 is for a player who doesn't belong in the NFL.</p><p></p><p><strong>The panel: </strong>More than 50 voters. NFL analysts, reporters and statisticians -- both from ESPN and outside ESPN -- including former players and NFL front-office members."</p><p></p><p>Certainly the NFL Network's title, "Top NFL Players of 2017", suggests a projection but I would not call it "clear" what the criteria might be unless you've found a set of instructions similar to ESPN's which are not especially clear either. That it would be a projection makes sense, but it's not explicit from what I can tell. The whole purpose of the list is to keep a warm flame under fan interest for the upcoming season during the dead time between camp roster-setting and preseason. They want folks to be thinking about their teams, fantasy rosters, TV subscriptions and ticket purchase.</p><p></p><p>If this is a 2017 projection rather than only past performance, why not open it up to rookies? Not doing so makes the intent vague. Is this supposed to be a projected MVP vote or is it supposed to be a rating of players regardless of position? From what I can tell, that's left to the voters' imaginations with a mix of interpretations reflected in the vote.</p><p></p><p>Further, Watt's not the only injured player from last season who appears under-voted if this is supposed to be a projection. Watt dropped to 35 because he missed the entire season. Voters either treated the question as a vote on 2016 performance or just forgot about Watt when scanning the stats to make their picks. Gronk dropped, but not as far, probably because he posted some stats while playing about 5 games in some semblance of health.</p><p></p><p>Or consider Navarro Bowman who went down in week 4 last season. To start, his 2016 ranking at #61 raises questions as to what this is about in the first place. Clearly ILB is not as valued as other positions and playing on a ****** team might have factored in. Why? Are those factors in the criteria? He's not on the list this year despite being a HOF caliber player.</p><p></p><p>How about a couple of guys from the "All Nickname Team"? The Honey Badger and Beast Mode? They didn't make the list. If you didn't play the prior season, you are forgotten. That's not in the criteria.</p><p></p><p>"...it's entirely possible that a lot players voting either don't understand or care about it..."</p><p></p><p>That's pretty evident, and who could blame them. I wouldn't know what I'm voting for and I don't care about the results. I do, however, find the defective nature of the process pretty interesting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 727648"] Do you have a link to the voter instructions, something that defines "best"? I can't find one. Needless to say, I find the voting criteria, or lack thereof, a lot more interesting than the results. ESPN does a similar less ballyhooed vote where the instructions are somewhat clearer, which when you add it up approximates the proposition, "rank all the players, from Hall of Fame level down to "nobody" right now regardless of position." However, they too leave it open as to how to weight last season vs. a projection for 2017 vs. body of work. Here is ESPN's criteria: "[B]This is not an MVP vote[/B]. It was a simple process, detailed here: [B]The parameters: [/B]Rate players based on [B]how good they are -- not what positions they play [/B]or how many endorsements they have. All NFL players were eligible. [B]The process:[/B] Rate every player on a scale of 1-100. A score of 100 implies an [B]all-time level of excellence[/B]; a 1 is for a player who doesn't belong in the NFL. [B]The panel: [/B]More than 50 voters. NFL analysts, reporters and statisticians -- both from ESPN and outside ESPN -- including former players and NFL front-office members." Certainly the NFL Network's title, "Top NFL Players of 2017", suggests a projection but I would not call it "clear" what the criteria might be unless you've found a set of instructions similar to ESPN's which are not especially clear either. That it would be a projection makes sense, but it's not explicit from what I can tell. The whole purpose of the list is to keep a warm flame under fan interest for the upcoming season during the dead time between camp roster-setting and preseason. They want folks to be thinking about their teams, fantasy rosters, TV subscriptions and ticket purchase. If this is a 2017 projection rather than only past performance, why not open it up to rookies? Not doing so makes the intent vague. Is this supposed to be a projected MVP vote or is it supposed to be a rating of players regardless of position? From what I can tell, that's left to the voters' imaginations with a mix of interpretations reflected in the vote. Further, Watt's not the only injured player from last season who appears under-voted if this is supposed to be a projection. Watt dropped to 35 because he missed the entire season. Voters either treated the question as a vote on 2016 performance or just forgot about Watt when scanning the stats to make their picks. Gronk dropped, but not as far, probably because he posted some stats while playing about 5 games in some semblance of health. Or consider Navarro Bowman who went down in week 4 last season. To start, his 2016 ranking at #61 raises questions as to what this is about in the first place. Clearly ILB is not as valued as other positions and playing on a ****** team might have factored in. Why? Are those factors in the criteria? He's not on the list this year despite being a HOF caliber player. How about a couple of guys from the "All Nickname Team"? The Honey Badger and Beast Mode? They didn't make the list. If you didn't play the prior season, you are forgotten. That's not in the criteria. "...it's entirely possible that a lot players voting either don't understand or care about it..." That's pretty evident, and who could blame them. I wouldn't know what I'm voting for and I don't care about the results. I do, however, find the defective nature of the process pretty interesting. [/QUOTE]
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