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<blockquote data-quote="PackFanNChiTown" data-source="post: 500540" data-attributes="member: 1418"><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">Vie Gehts Herr Mighty! </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">The problems started when Sherman was demoted from GM and Ted arrived. Sherman was a poor GM, but he was sincere and earnest in his approach to the team, even if he was in over his head...(I'll add an in my opinion or IMO, for the sake of the overzealous Queen fan). A perfect example was Sherman's own confessions about the Mike McKenzie trade and Bob Harlan admitting he gave Sherman both roles.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><a href="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a54207/article/bob-harlan-regrets-making-mike-sherman-packers-gm" target="_blank">http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a54207/article/bob-harlan-regrets-making-mike-sherman-packers-gm</a></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">In brief, McKenzie was a good cornerback for the team who basically started demanding a trade in the middle of his contract. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-brandt/drew-rosenhaus-agent-of-c_b_125520.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-brandt/drew-rosenhaus-agent-of-c_b_125520.html</a></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">His agent, Drew Rosenhaus, was a pro at making things difficult for teams on behalf of his client. Sherman admitted he was spending so much time trying to take care of the McKenzie trade that he wasn't spending any time running the team.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">But I digress...</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">The common rumor is Favre could approach Sherman about player selection and Sherman would listen. Thompson was NOT the same way. I don't have any links to the story, but I seem to remember a news conference with Ted where a reporter asked him if he'd run a decision about a particular player deal by Brett. TT's response was something like "why would I do that? He's just a player..."</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">Favre was not happy with Thompson's drafting, especially with Rodgers being the first overall pick. Not necessarily because they drafted Rodgers per se, but b/c they drafted a QB in the first round when Favre believed they had bigger needs. Favre believed in a "draft for need" philosophy but Ted was definitely building for the future. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">Around 2006 Favre started a "I'm not sure if I'm coming back next year" ritual. He also skipped most of training camp and trained on his own. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">Arguably Favre's biggest frustration with Thompson was over picking up Randy Moss. Favre always wanted to play with Moss, and Moss was available. As a brief history, Moss was originally drafted by the Vikings and he was and incredibly-gifted receiver. He was also one of the most spoiled players to ever take the field and many, myself included, believe he was a locker-room cancer. Here's an article regarding his trade to the Raiders in 2005 from the Vikings where the QB at the time, Culpepper, describes Moss' crap:</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1998159" target="_blank">http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1998159</a></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">Moss became available for trade in 2006 and 2007 and Favre wanted him badly. When Ted didn't "bend over backwards" to get Moss, Favre was "livid" according to our former Director of Finance Andrew Brandt, who was in touch with Favre during the trade talks.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><a href="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Randys-rant-was-almost-a-Packer-twice.html" target="_blank">http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Randys-rant-was-almost-a-Packer-twice.html</a> </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">Was it just coincidence that Favre chose to retire the day after the Moss trade didn't happen? Some will say yes, most will say no. My personal interpretation is that Favre was so angry that Ted wouldn't cater to his desires, (as reflected in Brandt's article, quoted here:</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">that he quit in a fit of frustration. He also quit, according to Brant, because Ted and/or Mike were "indifferent" to whether he played or not. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><a href="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/The-difficult-parting-of-Favre-and-the-Packers.html" target="_blank">http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/The-difficult-parting-of-Favre-and-the-Packers.html</a></span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="color: #333333">The Favre trade divided Packer Nation for at least two years. There were the Favre sycophants who believed the man should have been allowed to return after his retirement, even though Rodgers was named the starter, because you simply "don't treat a legend that way." And the sane ones, (yes I'm being deliberately sarcastic), who sided with the team's decision to NOT let the Messiah return and the eventual trade. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="color: #333333">Add to it Favre's attitude after he left.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="color: #333333">In 2008 he reportedly spent 60-90 minutes on the phone with the Lions coaches, giving them detailed information on how to beat the Packers</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><a href="http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/20/no-denials-from-lions-coaches-about-favre-report/" target="_blank">http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/20/no-denials-from-lions-coaches-about-favre-report/</a></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="color: #333333">In 2009, while playing for the Jets, he admitted he came back because he wanted to 'stick it" to the Packers.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/02/15/favre/index.html?eref=writers" target="_blank">http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/02/15/favre/index.html?eref=writers</a></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><span style="color: #333333">In 2010, he told the Bears to "go beat the Packers."</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'"><a href="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/22/favre-to-peppers-beat-the-packers/" target="_blank">http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/22/favre-to-peppers-beat-the-packers/</a></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">There are many non-Packer fans who simply don't remember, or don't care, about the details. They state "the Packers didn't want Favre so they let him go, why is everyone so upset?" </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">Packer fans, however, were quite close to the story. We lived it. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">For me, after the interception in the 2007 NFCCG I wasn't sure I wanted him back. I'd personally decided that Favre was never going to get us back to the Super Bowl, which means another QB would need to, (I use his interception with the Vikings in New Orleans as further proof of that). I didn't know if that QB was Rodgers (at the time) but I knew it wasn't Favre. When he retired (the first time) I was relieved. It was a "okay thanks 4 all the memories Brett, good luck in your retirement" reaction and I was super-excited to see the Rodgers era begin. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">When I first got wind he wanted to come back and get his job back I could feel the bile rising up. I didn't want him back, and was relieved when he was traded.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'tahoma'">It's not a complete history by any means, and I admit it is kind of long-winded, but there it is. I hope it helps fill in the blanks.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PackFanNChiTown, post: 500540, member: 1418"] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma]Vie Gehts Herr Mighty! [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma]The problems started when Sherman was demoted from GM and Ted arrived. Sherman was a poor GM, but he was sincere and earnest in his approach to the team, even if he was in over his head...(I'll add an in my opinion or IMO, for the sake of the overzealous Queen fan). A perfect example was Sherman's own confessions about the Mike McKenzie trade and Bob Harlan admitting he gave Sherman both roles.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a54207/article/bob-harlan-regrets-making-mike-sherman-packers-gm[/url][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma]In brief, McKenzie was a good cornerback for the team who basically started demanding a trade in the middle of his contract. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-brandt/drew-rosenhaus-agent-of-c_b_125520.html[/url][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma]His agent, Drew Rosenhaus, was a pro at making things difficult for teams on behalf of his client. Sherman admitted he was spending so much time trying to take care of the McKenzie trade that he wasn't spending any time running the team.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma]But I digress...[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma]The common rumor is Favre could approach Sherman about player selection and Sherman would listen. Thompson was NOT the same way. I don't have any links to the story, but I seem to remember a news conference with Ted where a reporter asked him if he'd run a decision about a particular player deal by Brett. TT's response was something like "why would I do that? He's just a player..."[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma]Favre was not happy with Thompson's drafting, especially with Rodgers being the first overall pick. Not necessarily because they drafted Rodgers per se, but b/c they drafted a QB in the first round when Favre believed they had bigger needs. Favre believed in a "draft for need" philosophy but Ted was definitely building for the future. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma]Around 2006 Favre started a "I'm not sure if I'm coming back next year" ritual. He also skipped most of training camp and trained on his own. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma]Arguably Favre's biggest frustration with Thompson was over picking up Randy Moss. Favre always wanted to play with Moss, and Moss was available. As a brief history, Moss was originally drafted by the Vikings and he was and incredibly-gifted receiver. He was also one of the most spoiled players to ever take the field and many, myself included, believe he was a locker-room cancer. Here's an article regarding his trade to the Raiders in 2005 from the Vikings where the QB at the time, Culpepper, describes Moss' crap:[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1998159[/url][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma]Moss became available for trade in 2006 and 2007 and Favre wanted him badly. When Ted didn't "bend over backwards" to get Moss, Favre was "livid" according to our former Director of Finance Andrew Brandt, who was in touch with Favre during the trade talks.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][url]http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Randys-rant-was-almost-a-Packer-twice.html[/url] [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma]Was it just coincidence that Favre chose to retire the day after the Moss trade didn't happen? Some will say yes, most will say no. My personal interpretation is that Favre was so angry that Ted wouldn't cater to his desires, (as reflected in Brandt's article, quoted here: [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma]that he quit in a fit of frustration. He also quit, according to Brant, because Ted and/or Mike were "indifferent" to whether he played or not. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][url]http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/The-difficult-parting-of-Favre-and-the-Packers.html[/url][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][COLOR=#333333][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][COLOR=#333333]The Favre trade divided Packer Nation for at least two years. There were the Favre sycophants who believed the man should have been allowed to return after his retirement, even though Rodgers was named the starter, because you simply "don't treat a legend that way." And the sane ones, (yes I'm being deliberately sarcastic), who sided with the team's decision to NOT let the Messiah return and the eventual trade. [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][COLOR=#333333]Add to it Favre's attitude after he left.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][COLOR=#333333]In 2008 he reportedly spent 60-90 minutes on the phone with the Lions coaches, giving them detailed information on how to beat the Packers[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [url]http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/20/no-denials-from-lions-coaches-about-favre-report/[/url] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][COLOR=#333333]In 2009, while playing for the Jets, he admitted he came back because he wanted to 'stick it" to the Packers.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/02/15/favre/index.html?eref=writers[/url][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=4][FONT=verdana][COLOR=#000000][COLOR=#141414][/COLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][COLOR=#333333]In 2010, he told the Bears to "go beat the Packers."[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma][url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/22/favre-to-peppers-beat-the-packers/[/url][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=tahoma]There are many non-Packer fans who simply don't remember, or don't care, about the details. They state "the Packers didn't want Favre so they let him go, why is everyone so upset?" [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=tahoma]Packer fans, however, were quite close to the story. We lived it. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=tahoma]For me, after the interception in the 2007 NFCCG I wasn't sure I wanted him back. I'd personally decided that Favre was never going to get us back to the Super Bowl, which means another QB would need to, (I use his interception with the Vikings in New Orleans as further proof of that). I didn't know if that QB was Rodgers (at the time) but I knew it wasn't Favre. When he retired (the first time) I was relieved. It was a "okay thanks 4 all the memories Brett, good luck in your retirement" reaction and I was super-excited to see the Rodgers era begin. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=2][FONT=tahoma]When I first got wind he wanted to come back and get his job back I could feel the bile rising up. I didn't want him back, and was relieved when he was traded.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=tahoma]It's not a complete history by any means, and I admit it is kind of long-winded, but there it is. I hope it helps fill in the blanks.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=13px][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#333333][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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