2026 Round 2 Pick 20 DB Brandon Cisse

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I really, really hope this kid can play on Day 1. Just be an average CB and it would do wonders for this defense.

If we can get average CB play from the boundary, this defense is going to be remarkably good. This team will be remarkably good.
 

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The fact that he is fairly accomplished at 20 years old is impressive. He may take a year to develop, but I think he can be a starter in this league.

I like the pick. A lot.
Same here Curly. Cisse has some size and is a willing tackler. That alone puts him ahead of Nixon and Valentine, who just aren't willing tacklers.
 

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Loved this pick. It was a no-brainer, i expe ted him to go from 25-35 area. Cisse was the BPA and at a position of need. He has all the tools and very impressive physical traits to be a very good CB in the NFL. His quickness will make trouble for all the other QBs in the NFCN.

Maybe more importantly, it seems like football is his life and spends an inordinate amount of time training or studying. He seems to have dedicated his life to becoming a successful player and I would expect that to continue. Now couple that with the fact that he is only 20 and still has some physical maturation ahead of him, he should get even better.

I would say that of all our picks, Cisse is the most likely to become an impact player. I think he will start some games this season, but get snaps even if he doesnt start right away. I hope he spends some time on the jugs machine. Work on his catching skills - maybe even train with WRs.
 

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Cisse said at rookie camp that he is already at 195lbs, and he played at 196-198 last year at South Carolina. He plans on playing in that same weight range this year. That 189 Weight at the combine was obviously for testing purposes.
 

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Loved this pick. It was a no-brainer, i expe ted him to go from 25-35 area. Cisse was the BPA and at a position of need. He has all the tools and very impressive physical traits to be a very good CB in the NFL. His quickness will make trouble for all the other QBs in the NFCN.

Maybe more importantly, it seems like football is his life and spends an inordinate amount of time training or studying. He seems to have dedicated his life to becoming a successful player and I would expect that to continue. Now couple that with the fact that he is only 20 and still has some physical maturation ahead of him, he should get even better.

I would say that of all our picks, Cisse is the most likely to become an impact player. I think he will start some games this season, but get snaps even if he doesnt start right away. I hope he spends some time on the jugs machine. Work on his catching skills - maybe even train with WRs.
Agreed Amish, and I was surprised Cisse was still there at #52. There were only two CBs taken in the first round - very strange. Cisse checks a lot of boxes for the Packers at CB, including a willingness to tackle. That's something Nixon and Valentine don't "burden" themselves with......

I thought Gluten might take Penn St Edge Dennis-Sutton at #52, but CB is the greater need and Cisse was actually a value pick at #52. And then the football gods smiled on the Packers and DS dropped to them at #102. And Parsons shares his alma mater, and will have some time to mentor the rookie for the first month or so.
 

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Cisse said at rookie camp that he is already at 195lbs, and he played at 196-198 last year at South Carolina. He plans on playing in that same weight range this year. That 189 Weight at the combine was obviously for testing purposes.
Thanks for the reminder. In addition to being a willing tackler, he's bigger than the typical GB CB. He looks more like Bullard than Nixon/Valentine, and that just fine w/ me.
 
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I’ve always like the 6.0-6’1” 200-205lb. CB. That’s an area you don’t lose lateral ability but you’re still compact enough and able to help in the Run stop. Plus matching up with a 6’4-6’5” TE isn’t as awkward
 

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I’ve always like the 6.0-6’1” 200-205lb. CB. That’s an area you don’t lose lateral ability but you’re still compact enough and able to help in the Run stop. Plus matching up with a 6’4-6’5” TE isn’t as awkward
Agreed. And the bigger a guy is, the more likely it is he'll be a willing tackler - something Nixon and Valentine are NOT.

Tackling is a huge part of a CB's job. Cisse looks like he fits the bill.
 

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Agreed. And the bigger a guy is, the more likely it is he'll be a willing tackler - something Nixon and Valentine are NOT.

Tackling is a huge part of a CB's job. Cisse looks like he fits the bill.
Tackling IS a huge part. And lot of the secondary players are not always up to it even though they cover well. Jaire Alexander was never the same after a hit he put on a Pittsburgh RB.
Herb Adderley and Wille Wood were examples of defenders who were not big, had great instinctive cover skills, and hit very hard and tackled well. Yet, if you look at their track record you will find that over their long careers they missed VERY few games. Astounding!
 

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Tackling IS a huge part. And lot of the secondary players are not always up to it even though they cover well. Jaire Alexander was never the same after a hit he put on a Pittsburgh RB.
Herb Adderley and Wille Wood were examples of defenders who were not big, had great instinctive cover skills, and hit very hard and tackled well. Yet, if you look at their track record you will find that over their long careers they missed VERY few games. Astounding!
Good stuff milani. Yeah I think after JA was injured in Pittsburgh, he shied away from tackling - either consciously or instinctively. I just had my left shoulder replaced after 3 years of increasing pain. It's absolutely fine now, but I still instinctively do things to protect it in and out of the gym. (And no, I'm not comparing myself to an NFL athlete. I wouldn't want to tackle anyone in the NFL either. My point is that a shoulder injury just sticks with a person because of how destabilizing it is.)

Adderly and Wood! What great players and what great memories! And yeah, they were not big guys and yet missed very few games.

Well tackling is certainly about technique, and there is a right way and a wrong way to do it. Cisse isn't immune to injury just because of his size. But he is a willing tackler, and that's a much needed talent in the CB group. With good coaching, he should soon earn a starting job at CB - not that the competition is fierce.......
 

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Good stuff milani. Yeah I think after JA was injured in Pittsburgh, he shied away from tackling - either consciously or instinctively. I just had my left shoulder replaced after 3 years of increasing pain. It's absolutely fine now, but I still instinctively do things to protect it in and out of the gym. (And no, I'm not comparing myself to an NFL athlete. I wouldn't want to tackle anyone in the NFL either. My point is that a shoulder injury just sticks with a person because of how destabilizing it is.)

Adderly and Wood! What great players and what great memories! And yeah, they were not big guys and yet missed very few games.

Well tackling is certainly about technique, and there is a right way and a wrong way to do it. Cisse isn't immune to injury just because of his size. But he is a willing tackler, and that's a much needed talent in the CB group. With good coaching, he should soon earn a starting job at CB - not that the competition is fierce.......
Jaire came back for the 49er playoff game. On that last SF drive he shied away from a tackle on a run play that went for a 1st down enabling Robbie Gold to kick the winner.
I just had my shoulder replaced. A Reverse arthoplasty. I won't be playing again, 3 years, or 10 years. But at least I will have both my arms at my side in my casket.
 

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Jaire came back for the 49er playoff game. On that last SF drive he shied away from a tackle on a run play that went for a 1st down enabling Robbie Gold to kick the winner.
I just had my shoulder replaced. A Reverse arthoplasty. I won't be playing again, 3 years, or 10 years. But at least I will have both my arms at my side in my casket.
I had an anatomical TSR last August. So we're both familiar with the recovery process, and how careful a patient has to be while rehabbing. I had both knees done and the recovery was a lot "easier" (no joint replacement is ever easy). The shoulder moves in an infinite number of directions, or almost infinite. And the "socket" in the shoulder joint is a ball, and what can bset be described as a shallow dish for a socket.

Why the reverse? Inoperable rotator cuff tear?

Coffin comment is hilarious. I hope I get more out of the surgery than that, but wait, I'll get cremated. Never mind.....
 

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I had an anatomical TSR last August. So we're both familiar with the recovery process, and how careful a patient has to be while rehabbing. I had both knees done and the recovery was a lot "easier" (no joint replacement is ever easy). The shoulder moves in an infinite number of directions, or almost infinite. And the "socket" in the shoulder joint is a ball, and what can bset be described as a shallow dish for a socket.

Why the reverse? Inoperable rotator cuff tear?

Coffin comment is hilarious. I hope I get more out of the surgery than that, but wait, I'll get cremated. Never mind.....
Coffin is because am old. Not saving myself to make the team. Reverse is done nowadays with seniors. The rotator cuff was torn apart from a fall. The shoulder popped out 2 additional times within a week for no traumatic reason. MRI revealed what XRays did not. That the shoulder was broken on contact from the fall at the cup and thus the socket could no longer hold the arm in place no matter how the rotator was repaired. Finishing the last of my 24 sessions of therapy in the next 2 weeks. But if they get me to 80-85% of where I was that would be considered successful. There will be some permanent disability such as reaching under and behind the back due to the change in anatomy.
 

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Coffin is because am old. Not saving myself to make the team. Reverse is done nowadays with seniors. The rotator cuff was torn apart from a fall. The shoulder popped out 2 additional times within a week for no traumatic reason. MRI revealed what XRays did not. That the shoulder was broken on contact from the fall at the cup and thus the socket could no longer hold the arm in place no matter how the rotator was repaired. Finishing the last of my 24 sessions of therapy in the next 2 weeks. But if they get me to 80-85% of where I was that would be considered successful. There will be some permanent disability such as reaching under and behind the back due to the change in anatomy.
That's a long road milani. Good for you for having what it takes to make a solid recovery. When I hear people complain that they feel worse than before the surgery, they aren't doing the work.

Even with my anatomical TSR, I can't do any exercise (think body dips for the triceps) that places my elbows behind me.

I was lucky that my RC was intact, but it had been greatly weakened before surgery - I couldn't do pull ups, inlcine push ups, chest presses.

I have a friend who has an irreparable RC tear. His only recourse, I think, is a reverse TSR. He's waiting until he's in pain doing everyday things. That's a mistake. A lot of very big muscle groups in the upper back and chest are atrophying becasue he can't do the exercises to strengthen those muscles.

And yeah, the permanent retsrictions with a reverse are a bit more. The biggest risk, as you discovered the hard way, is dislocation.

I've had both knees and right hip replaced. Recovering from the aTSR was by far the hardest and longest. It requires a ton of patience, a good PT, and the willingness to do what the PT says to do. It was worth every minute.

Well done milani. I also had to sleep on my back, propped up, for about 6 months. I actually got used to it!
 

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That's a long road milani. Good for you for having what it takes to make a solid recovery. When I hear people complain that they feel worse than before the surgery, they aren't doing the work.

Even with my anatomical TSR, I can't do any exercise (think body dips for the triceps) that places my elbows behind me.

I was lucky that my RC was intact, but it had been greatly weakened before surgery - I couldn't do pull ups, inlcine push ups, chest presses.

I have a friend who has an irreparable RC tear. His only recourse, I think, is a reverse TSR. He's waiting until he's in pain doing everyday things. That's a mistake. A lot of very big muscle groups in the upper back and chest are atrophying becasue he can't do the exercises to strengthen those muscles.

And yeah, the permanent retsrictions with a reverse are a bit more. The biggest risk, as you discovered the hard way, is dislocation.

I've had both knees and right hip replaced. Recovering from the aTSR was by far the hardest and longest. It requires a ton of patience, a good PT, and the willingness to do what the PT says to do. It was worth every minute.

Well done milani. I also had to sleep on my back, propped up, for about 6 months. I actually got used to it!
Sounds like you went through hell. I do not believe I could take what you experienced. I do not want them tearing into my knees or hips even if they short change my quality of life. At least I am glad this happened late in life. Had this happened in my prime it would have ruined most everything. I had a bankart repair in 1971 of the other shoulder. That was more painful and invasive but the shoulder did not break. It took years but it healed to about 95%. And I was able to play tennis actively for over 40 years. At this stage of the game I am content with moderate physical activity and being able to keep the heart and lungs performing. When I go to Lambeau I pride myself in parking West of the stadium and making the healthy trip on foot to the gate. I hope I can continue for several years to come.
 

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Sounds like you went through hell. I do not believe I could take what you experienced. I do not want them tearing into my knees or hips even if they short change my quality of life. At least I am glad this happened late in life. Had this happened in my prime it would have ruined most everything. I had a bankart repair in 1971 of the other shoulder. That was more painful and invasive but the shoulder did not break. It took years but it healed to about 95%. And I was able to play tennis actively for over 40 years. At this stage of the game I am content with moderate physical activity and being able to keep the heart and lungs performing. When I go to Lambeau I pride myself in parking West of the stadium and making the healthy trip on foot to the gate. I hope I can continue for several years to come.
You mention keeping your heart and lungs healthy. I think this is one thing a lot of guys our age overlook. They're convinced that the "manly" way to fitness is through lifting or other resistance exercises.

And that's fine. Weights should be a part of everyone's program. But I'll take a strong cardio-vascular system over the size of my biceps. Nothing is more important to health, now and in the future, than being CV fit and in the normal weight range for our age and height. Not a lot of guys in WI fit that bill.

I didn't really go through hell. I was in pain for a few days post-op. I couldn't start real rehab for a month because the front RC had to be detached to do the replacement, and then sewn back onto the scapula and humerus. Ouch! That just takes time to heal. Once that was over, my PT spent two months restoring mobility, and I spent 4 hours/day in a continuous passive motion machine, and only them starting resistance work. It worked out great, I'm pain free, and haven't felt this healthy in decades.

So congrats on your committment to heart/lung health milani. Nothing is more important. Well done!
 

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Loved this pick. It was a no-brainer, i expe ted him to go from 25-35 area. Cisse was the BPA and at a position of need. He has all the tools and very impressive physical traits to be a very good CB in the NFL. His quickness will make trouble for all the other QBs in the NFCN.

Maybe more importantly, it seems like football is his life and spends an inordinate amount of time training or studying. He seems to have dedicated his life to becoming a successful player and I would expect that to continue. Now couple that with the fact that he is only 20 and still has some physical maturation ahead of him, he should get even better.

I would say that of all our picks, Cisse is the most likely to become an impact player. I think he will start some games this season, but get snaps even if he doesnt start right away. I hope he spends some time on the jugs machine. Work on his catching skills - maybe even train with WRs.
Agreed and love the pick. The CB group has a number of weaknesses, with tackling topping my list. Cisse is young but has all the other tools to make a legit run at starting.

and maybe Nixon decides he wants to be a returner again. He earned his All Pro designation. And with a whole lot more competition at CB, everything helps. And he'll have competition in Sky Moore. I like that a lot.
 

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You mention keeping your heart and lungs healthy. I think this is one thing a lot of guys our age overlook. They're convinced that the "manly" way to fitness is through lifting or other resistance exercises.

And that's fine. Weights should be a part of everyone's program. But I'll take a strong cardio-vascular system over the size of my biceps. Nothing is more important to health, now and in the future, than being CV fit and in the normal weight range for our age and height. Not a lot of guys in WI fit that bill.

I didn't really go through hell. I was in pain for a few days post-op. I couldn't start real rehab for a month because the front RC had to be detached to do the replacement, and then sewn back onto the scapula and humerus. Ouch! That just takes time to heal. Once that was over, my PT spent two months restoring mobility, and I spent 4 hours/day in a continuous passive motion machine, and only them starting resistance work. It worked out great, I'm pain free, and haven't felt this healthy in decades.

So congrats on your committment to heart/lung health milani. Nothing is more important. Well done!
You have great patience and perseverance. Science can keep people alive from 90 to 100 a lot more than decades ago simply because they keep the heart and lungs functioning. And it has made tremendous progress in controlling diabetes and high blood pressure. The big Achilles is still cancer. Lung, pancreas, prostate, colon, and breast. However, the pre-screening has saved many lives. I had prostate cancer a while back and am now cancer free for 11 years.
 

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You have great patience and perseverance. Science can keep people alive from 90 to 100 a lot more than decades ago simply because they keep the heart and lungs functioning. And it has made tremendous progress in controlling diabetes and high blood pressure. The big Achilles is still cancer. Lung, pancreas, prostate, colon, and breast. However, the pre-screening has saved many lives. I had prostate cancer a while back and am now cancer free for 11 years.
Thanks milani. Maybe I'm being too cocky here, but I expect and look forward to living well into my 90s. I like life (most days!). And I realize that what started out as a hobby (running, marathons, other foot races) has now become a way of life (cardio-vascular maintenance).

I feel very fortunate in that I enjoy working out, esp a 50 minute spin session. It just feels great afterwards. Again, I'm very fortunate and don't take it for granted.
 

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Thanks milani. Maybe I'm being too cocky here, but I expect and look forward to living well into my 90s. I like life (most days!). And I realize that what started out as a hobby (running, marathons, other foot races) has now become a way of life (cardio-vascular maintenance).

I feel very fortunate in that I enjoy working out, esp a 50 minute spin session. It just feels great afterwards. Again, I'm very fortunate and don't take it for granted.
Not to pee in your wheeties, but one of my friends in our subdivision was an Olympic swimmer and coach of the Georgia female swim team, in AMAZING shape, with no bad habits at all. Fell face over dead on the treadmill at the gym in his early 40's.
 

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Not to pee in your wheeties, but one of my friends in our subdivision was an Olympic swimmer and coach of the Georgia female swim team, in AMAZING shape, with no bad habits at all. Fell face over dead on the treadmill at the gym in his early 40's.
That can happen, but is not the norm. Jim Fixx, the marathon runner, went down at 52, even though he had transformed himself. But his family history of heart disease and his prior smoking and obesity from decades earlier had already done some damage.

I like to think of comedian, George Burns, aka Nat Birnbaum, who was an avid cigar smoker his entire life. Yet, he lived to 100. That is the exception. Our lives are finite. But taking care of them is like taking care of anything. It serves a purpose.
 

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Not to pee in your wheeties, but one of my friends in our subdivision was an Olympic swimmer and coach of the Georgia female swim team, in AMAZING shape, with no bad habits at all. Fell face over dead on the treadmill at the gym in his early 40's.
Yeah that stuff happens Suds. I still like my odds, but also live each day fully. Cause ya never know.

Years ago, there was a marathon runner who wrote a book on running, back when running was a "thing" in the US (1980s). I think his name was Jim Fixx. He suffered a heart attack while on a run, and shortly after his book became a best seller. I think he lived through it, but there are no assurances when it comes to longevity. Hell there are no assurances when it comes to today.

(I do like the "pee in your wheeties" line! That's classic!)

As for living into my 90s, and maintaining my health - that's a better attitude than I see from most guys my age at the gym. For the most part, these guys are overweight and apparently allergic to hard work. And the excuse is always the same - "Hey I'm in my 70s! Might as well live it up!" Meaning they live on the Wisconsin Diet - Beer, cheese, brats and brandy. (Why is brandy such a big thing in WI anyway?)

And that's fine. We all have to find our own path and set and achieve our own goals.
 

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Yeah that stuff happens Suds. I still like my odds, but also live each day fully. Cause ya never know.

Years ago, there was a marathon runner who wrote a book on running, back when running was a "thing" in the US (1980s). I think his name was Jim Fixx. He suffered a heart attack while on a run, and shortly after his book became a best seller. I think he lived through it, but there are no assurances when it comes to longevity. Hell there are no assurances when it comes to today.

(I do like the "pee in your wheeties" line! That's classic!)

As for living into my 90s, and maintaining my health - that's a better attitude than I see from most guys my age at the gym. For the most part, these guys are overweight and apparently allergic to hard work. And the excuse is always the same - "Hey I'm in my 70s! Might as well live it up!" Meaning they live on the Wisconsin Diet - Beer, cheese, brats and brandy. (Why is brandy such a big thing in WI anyway?)

And that's fine. We all have to find our own path and set and achieve our own goals.
Fixx died of a heart attack at 52 after running. His family had a history of heart disease. At age 35 he was an overweight heavy smoker. He turned it around, however, genetics and past history can come to collect. And it did.
 
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