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Josh Jackson was RD2 (45th overall). Now Demarius kinda sucked and got traded right away.
Clinton Dix started for 6 years in the league (4.5 with GB) and even started nearly every game across his career. He never missed a game across that span and was an All Pro 2 designation with us so I’m Not sure how that’s “bombing” ? He actually even finished pretty respectable with Chicago before retiring.
I remember Dix for his failure to jump about a foot and block a 2 pt conversion desperation pass from Wilson in the 2014 NFCCG loss to the Hags. In fairness, there was plenty of blame for that loss.

Maybe Dix played the best out of a long list of bad CB picks. He was an All Pro 2 one year? Fantastic.
 
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I remember Dix for his failure to jump about a foot and block a 2 pt conversion desperation pass from Wilson in the 2014 NFCCG loss to the Hags. In fairness, there was plenty of blame for that loss.

Maybe Dix played the best out of a long list of bad CB picks. He was an All Pro 2 one year? Fantastic.
He wasn’t great but he wasn’t terrible either. He actually played Safety also. His career kinda mirrored Quay Walker imo. He’s drafted back of RD1 but never really lives up to Day 1 hype. Both to me are still that top 50 area selection if there was a do over Draft that season. They are regular starters but never get off the + Starter plateau. There’s a need for that but here I think both players are pretty much near game ready early on Rookie season. That really is the payoff is the plug n play, unlike Luka’s Van Ness where you lose time hoping the ceiling pops off.
 

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I remember Dix for his failure to jump about a foot and block a 2 pt conversion desperation pass from Wilson in the 2014 NFCCG loss to the Hags. In fairness, there was plenty of blame for that loss.

Maybe Dix played the best out of a long list of bad CB picks. He was an All Pro 2 one year? Fantastic.
That miss was second to the botched onside kick. Wilson's throw was like a Hail Mary. It should have been a knock down.
 

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He wasn’t great but he wasn’t terrible either. He actually played Safety also. His career kinda mirrored Quay Walker imo. He’s drafted back of RD1 but never really lives up to Day 1 hype. Both to me are still that top 50 area selection if there was a do over Draft that season. They are regular starters but never get off the + Starter plateau. There’s a need for that but here I think both players are pretty much near game ready early on Rookie season. That really is the payoff is the plug n play, unlike Luka’s Van Ness where you lose time hoping the ceiling pops off.
I thought Dix played as a S. I don't remember why the Packers let him go. Good DB play is always at a premium in GB. I didn't know he went to the Bears and didn't know he quit football after six seasons.

In fairness, he was a good DB. I guess my less-than-favorable opinion is the failure to jump one foot to block a 2 pt conversion in that dreadful NFCCG loss th the Hags. It was a broken play. Wilson had run at least 10 yards backwards, maybe more.

Again, lots of blame for that loss. Dix was a good DB compared to what the Packers were used to.

Do you know why he left? My guess is FA at a price GB did not want to match.
 
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Again, lots of blame for that loss. Dix was a good DB compared to what the Packers were used to.

Do you know why he left? My guess is FA at a price GB did not want to match.
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Well you’re right about Dix production dropping and missing plays as he approached his contract end. Both him and Ty Montgomery finished the season poorly. That said there’s always players looking to get on the field and at a much cheaper cost.
Brian was looking to be active in FA and he likely either loses some Compensatory value there, plus has to wait 2 drafts to find out. Here he trades Dix and gets a RD4 selection in the next draft several months later. So the immediate return for a declining player had to be tempting.

Update: We now have hindsight that trading Clinton Dix was a good move. I just looked and he accepted $3Mil offer from Chicago, meaning he was either a RD7 Comp or values got cancelled out altogether. It also appears Dix found himself bouncing from team to team ((Chicago, Dallas, LA, Washington DC (technically Maryland)) across the country at lower pay. He had an offer to Coach for his Alma Matter there at Alabama and get back home. He did come back and sign a retirement contract with Green Bay a few years later and quietly walked away from the Pro circuit.
 
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Good Morning and Happy Memorial Day (weekend)
Well you’re right about Dix production dropping and missing plays as he approached his contract end. Both him and Ty Montgomery finished the season poorly. That said there’s always players looking to get on the field and at a much cheaper cost.
Brian was looking to be active in FA and he likely either loses some Compensatory value there, plus has to wait 2 drafts to find out. Here he trades Dix and gets a RD4 selection in the next draft several months later. So the immediate return for a declining player had to be tempting.

Update: We now have hindsight that trading Clinton Dix was a good move. I just looked and he accepted $3Mil offer from Chicago, meaning he was either a RD7 Comp or values got cancelled out altogether. It also appears Dix found himself bouncing from team to team ((Chicago, Dallas, LA, Washington DC (technically Maryland)) across the country at lower pay. He had an offer to Coach for his Alma Matter there at Alabama and get back home. He did come back and sign a retirement contract with Green Bay a few years later and quietly walked away from the Pro circuit.
Thanks for the history. Well it was wise of him to end his NFL career. He showed flashes of talent but never put it all together.
 
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Boy was I stoked when we drafted Kevin king. I was so against drafting TJ watt. lol. Thought it was just because was JJ watts brother.

Eehhhhhhh

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Yeah I think the consensus in here wanted Watt just in case he became anything remotely close to his Brother. Plus the WI ties it just made sense.
 

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Boy was I stoked when we drafted Kevin king. I was so against drafting TJ watt. lol. Thought it was just because was JJ watts brother.

Eehhhhhhh

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Well GBS I'm impressed that you have the courage to admit you preferred King over Watt. I think a lot of us did and just din't want to go out on that limb.

Hindsight is perfect, and there are a lot off GMs who missed on Watt. Hell he played in our backyard and most of us missed him. The Packers were desperate for CB help, and King looked good. It may be a case of passing on the BPA and taking a player for a specific need, but I'm not sure that explains it. Not a lot of teams had Watt graded that high.

So "whoopises" is right. Fair to say that a LOT of people underestimated Watt. including most Badgers' fans.
 

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Yeah I think the consensus in here wanted Watt just in case he became anything remotely close to his Brother. Plus the WI ties it just made sense.
Drafting TJ Watt because he is JJ's brother is a better reason than TJ playing in our backyard. I'm not a huge follower of the Badgers. I was aware of TJW but like our GM, was thinking CB help was priority #1, and King looked like a good foot. Once again - first thought wrong!

Safe to say TJ is a much better NFL player than he was in college. That happens now and then, and it's almost impossible to predict.
 

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Oh yeah - King was taken ahead of TJ Watt.
Actually Joe, we traded back to pick #33, and Watt was taken at pick #30.... However, we coukd have taken him, instead of doing the trade back. It's possible they were hoping he would get to #33, but CB was a huge need that year. Chidobe Awuzie was my Draft crush that year, and he ended up going #60 to Dallas in the 2nd Rd. King, Sidney Jones, and **** Tabor all went before him, and he was the best of the bunch, career wise. Funny thing is then at #61, we took S Josh Jones. If they wanted those two positions early, coukd you imagine if they took S Budda Baker at #33, and then gone CB at #61 (Possibly Awuzie, or 3rd rounders Ahkello Witherspoon, Cam Sutton, or Rasul Douglas). On paper, we would have faired a lot better with that scenario.

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Drafting TJ Watt because he is JJ's brother is a better reason than TJ playing in our backyard. I'm not a huge follower of the Badgers. I was aware of TJW but like our GM, was thinking CB help was priority #1, and King looked like a good foot. Once again - first thought wrong!

Safe to say TJ is a much better NFL player than he was in college. That happens now and then, and it's almost impossible to predict.
Exactly. Although my bigger issue was staying up until after 11pm to watch us draft our guy and Ted trades out of RD1! That was depressing. I remember EXACTLY where I was sitting that night in 2017. True story I had my laptop open and was following online.

I’ll also say that getting the opening draft selection of RD4 (starting off Day3) was pretty smart. You get plenty of time to analyze the remaining options with 1st choice.
Unfortunately we took Vince Biegel to make up for missing out on a Badgers player. Then before he gets to GB he has both feet operated on.
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Actually Joe, we traded back to pick #33, and Watt was taken at pick #30.... However, we coukd have taken him, instead of doing the trade back. It's possible they were hoping he would get to #33, but CB was a huge need that year. Chidobe Awuzie was my Draft crush that year, and he ended up going #60 to Dallas in the 2nd Rd. King, Sidney Jones, and **** Tabor all went before him, and he was the best of the bunch, career wise. Funny thing is then at #61, we took S Josh Jones. If they wanted those two positions early, coukd you imagine if they took S Budda Baker at #33, and then gone CB at #61 (Possibly Awuzie, or 3rd rounders Ahkello Witherspoon, Cam Sutton, or Rasul Douglas). On paper, we would have faired a lot better with that scenario.

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Thanks for the correction D! Those were the years when CB was a need almost every season. But I didn't know Watt was taken in the first round.

Oh well. this stuff happens. It seems notoriously hard to predict how a college CB will play in the NFL, and the Packers haven't exactly been lucky.
 

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Thanks for the correction D! Those were the years when CB was a need almost every season. But I didn't know Watt was taken in the first round.

Oh well. this stuff happens. It seems notoriously hard to predict how a college CB will play in the NFL, and the Packers haven't exactly been lucky.
I don't think it's luck. And I think we too often pick on what we hope rather than see. Though I have a feeling Cisse might be good. Just a feeling but he was rated well and a 2nd rounder
 

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Exactly. Although my bigger issue was staying up until after 11pm to watch us draft our guy and Ted trades out of RD1! That was depressing. I remember EXACTLY where I was sitting that night in 2017. True story I had my laptop open and was following online.

I’ll also say that getting the opening draft selection of RD4 (starting off Day3) was pretty smart. You get plenty of time to analyze the remaining options with 1st choice.
Unfortunately we took Vince Biegel to make up for missing out on a Badgers player. Then before he gets to GB he has both feet operated on.
Not Good !
Thanks for the story OS. It is a bit funny, sadly at your expense.

What pick did the Packers have that year before TT traded out of round one?
 

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I don't think it's luck. And I think we too often pick on what we hope rather than see. Though I have a feeling Cisse might be good. Just a feeling but he was rated well and a 2nd rounder
You're right gopkrs, the Packers woeful record at picking CBs is not due to bad luck, but picking on hope rather than what is most likely to happen. And in this case a lot of hope was that CBs drafted could play well immediately. That's just not the way things (usually) go in the NFL, maybe with the exception of the OL guys.

And I like the Cisse pick as well. He's bigger at 200 lbs than the typical GB CB. He's fast and at 20, very young.

As much as I'd like to see the CB group play a lot better, a slow intro to the NFL game for Cisse is the best way to go. I do thing he'll be around for a while.
 

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Thanks for the story OS. It is a bit funny, sadly at your expense.

What pick did the Packers have that year before TT traded out of round one?
We had pick #29. We traded with Cleveland for the 1st pick in Rd 2, and the 1st pick in Rd 4. I personally liked the tradedown we made, because it gave us the 1st pick on Day 2, and the first pick on Day 3 of the Draft.... unfortunately, those picks, overall, didn't work out for us (King & Biegel) King had a couple of decent years for us, but Biegel did basically nothing.
 

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We had pick #29. We traded with Cleveland for the 1st pick in Rd 2, and the 1st pick in Rd 4. I personally liked the tradedown we made, because it gave us the 1st pick on Day 2, and the first pick on Day 3 of the Draft.... unfortunately, those picks, overall, didn't work out for us (King & Biegel) King had a couple of decent years for us, but Biegel did basically nothing.
Thanks OS, much appreciated.

Yeah those were, in hindsight, lousy moves and picks by TT. Well, it happens. I'd say TT had more good drafts than bad (I mean he drafted Rodgers), and the same is true for Gluten.
 

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We had pick #29. We traded with Cleveland for the 1st pick in Rd 2, and the 1st pick in Rd 4. I personally liked the tradedown we made, because it gave us the 1st pick on Day 2, and the first pick on Day 3 of the Draft.... unfortunately, those picks, overall, didn't work out for us (King & Biegel) King had a couple of decent years for us, but Biegel did basically nothing.
Thanks D. Now that you mention it, I do recall that draft (somewhat). As the first round unfolded, King would have been there at #29, but that ws a bit too high for him. TT traded back a few spots to get him and moved up in other rounds. CB was the #1 need, and all of the top talent was gone early.

I can't blame TT for the trade. Yeah it wasn't very good in hindsight. And it's not like anyone had Watt as the next Khalil Mack, even though he turned out that way.
 

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I want to say it was #27 area? Going off memory might be off by spot or 2
Good memory OS. DoURant confirmed it was #29. So TT moved back four spots and out of round 1 to take King at #33 and move way up in rounds 3 and 4. At the time it was a v good move. King at #29 was a reach, and no one knew the kind of player Watt would become when he was selected at #30 by Pittsburgh.

As always, the draft is as much about art as it is science, and an occasional dose of good luck (Bakhtiari, Kraft) and bad luck (Mandarich, King). And in fairness, King was a decent CB, just not Pro Bowl stuff. There are too many examples to list.
 
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Good memory OS. DoURant confirmed it was #29. So TT moved back four spots and out of round 1 to take King at #33 and move way up in rounds 3 and 4. At the time it was a v good move. King at #29 was a reach, and no one knew the kind of player Watt would become when he was selected at #30 by Pittsburgh.

As always, the draft is as much about art as it is science, and an occasional dose of good luck (Bakhtiari, Kraft) and bad luck (Mandarich, King). And in fairness, King was a decent CB, just not Pro Bowl stuff. There are too many examples to list.
I’m beginning to believe that in many drafts, once you get past the group of Top 1-12 Blue Chip types, the variance in % chances of hitting Gold on a player inside the Top 40-50 overall drafted area isn’t that much different.

While there are exceptions. If a trade partner is willing to offer up a slightly lopsided trade to get their guy at #20 overall, but sends back a #35 +#45
I really like my chances of 1 of those pair of top 50 types hitting. This 2026 draft was like that. I would’ve rather chose 2X in the 30’s-40’s than 1X at #20 overall area.
 
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I’m beginning to believe that in many drafts, once you get past the group of Top 1-12 Blue Chip types, the variance in % chances of hitting Gold on a player inside the Top 40-50 overall drafted area isn’t that much different.

While there are exceptions. If a trade partner is willing to offer up a slightly lopsided trade to get their guy at #20 overall, but sends back a #35 +#45
I really like my chances of 1 of those pair of top 50 types hitting. This 2026 draft was like that. I would’ve rather chose 2X in the 30’s-40’s than 1X at #20 overall area.
Good pint about the draft this year. Not having a first round pick this year, especially at the back of the round, didn't hurt much. I don't think they would have gotten a better CB if they were drafting in the mid-late 20s, as is usually the case.

And I agree that the top 10, maybe 12 guys are the best of the best, and that GMs picking here are in a sweet spot (usually for an unfortunate reason….).
 

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Yikes how did the Browns and Saints get so far in dead cap hell? Although the Packers at $45 mil isn't anything to write home about. Thanks for the charts OS!
 

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