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<blockquote data-quote="tynimiller" data-source="post: 899266" data-attributes="member: 6578"><p>Few second tier (Day 2) or even third tier (Day 3) guys that have snagged my eye for whatever reasons:</p><p></p><p><strong>Robert Rochell - Central Arkansas 5'11' and 195lbs</strong></p><p></p><p>From a guy that had no FBS schools looking at him, leading him to Central Arkansas, and even as a uber talented jack of all trades high schooler he caught a red shirt his freshman year. The last two seasons however Rochell has been that roller coaster production machine. At times he looks like a polished refined CB worthy of a pick no later than in the 3rd...then he flashes struggles or holes in his game that make you think 7th round or UDFA. He is a tall 5'11' (was 5'11' and 7/8s technically) and his frame from two years ago to now added about 15lbs, but lost nothing in production or fluidity. He wasn't as productive in the INTs for 2020 limited schedule, but last year had 5 and a ton of deflections. When I watch him I see a Jalen Ramsey and Jaire type mix, not a guy that is a dude that gets a lot of Picks despite being a stick on you type guy, almost like they worry more about position to beat you not depend on hands to snatch a win. Trying to peg him down to when you think he'll be there is TOUGH....he truly is a guy I could see someone truly falling in love with and "reaching" into end of the 3rd on....or we could see him last till the 7th or a priority UDFA.</p><p></p><p>Me personally I have a 5th round slot on him. I like his upside - I'm not wanting him to be the first CB I draft necessarily OR hopefully, but I like him and see a solid chance of him to become a starter.</p><p></p><p><strong>Lamont Wade - Penn State 5'9' 190lbs (listed as a S)</strong></p><p></p><p>This dude has Sullivan replacement or roaming safety replacement written all over him IMO. Do NOT let his demeanor draw any thoughts of being timid, he will attack the ball whether in the air or in the arms of a player. A guy with a nack for causing turnovers, in one game against Ohio State he punched out 3! He is a Packer guy IMO, conservative thoughtful guy/father off the field that has talked about the comittment to proper sleep, eating ettiquette and has cut his body fat well below 6% body fat. Just peep his short video he sent out on his twitter recently: <a href="https://www.inquirer.com/college-sports/penn-state/lamont-wade-nfl-draft-penn-state-20210115.html" target="_blank">https://www.inquirer.com/college-sports/penn-state/lamont-wade-nfl-draft-penn-state-20210115.html</a></p><p></p><p>I personally, similar to Rochell, have him circled as a high 5th round grade. I say that, knowing that he could be a needed grab in the 4th...but unlike Rochell I do not think for a second he slips past the 6th. He has a lot of intangibles, and I think the rest can grow or be coached up.</p><p></p><p><strong>Caden Sterns - Texas 6'0' (some places say 6'1') 210lbs (listed as a S)</strong></p><p></p><p>Listed after Wade, but not because of any reason other than timing of typing. Sterns is a guy I LOVE for the slot and safety depth. While he is yes built like a SS, this dude's best quality his COVERAGE ability. He has comfort and experience in singe high, two high, box, and the nickel role. This man's ceiling reminds me of a player we all wish we had back, Hyde. Watching some of his 19' games compared to 20' his contribution in stopping the running game took the biggest strides.</p><p></p><p>End of 3rd/4th round grade from me for him.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tynimiller, post: 899266, member: 6578"] Few second tier (Day 2) or even third tier (Day 3) guys that have snagged my eye for whatever reasons: [B]Robert Rochell - Central Arkansas 5'11' and 195lbs[/B] From a guy that had no FBS schools looking at him, leading him to Central Arkansas, and even as a uber talented jack of all trades high schooler he caught a red shirt his freshman year. The last two seasons however Rochell has been that roller coaster production machine. At times he looks like a polished refined CB worthy of a pick no later than in the 3rd...then he flashes struggles or holes in his game that make you think 7th round or UDFA. He is a tall 5'11' (was 5'11' and 7/8s technically) and his frame from two years ago to now added about 15lbs, but lost nothing in production or fluidity. He wasn't as productive in the INTs for 2020 limited schedule, but last year had 5 and a ton of deflections. When I watch him I see a Jalen Ramsey and Jaire type mix, not a guy that is a dude that gets a lot of Picks despite being a stick on you type guy, almost like they worry more about position to beat you not depend on hands to snatch a win. Trying to peg him down to when you think he'll be there is TOUGH....he truly is a guy I could see someone truly falling in love with and "reaching" into end of the 3rd on....or we could see him last till the 7th or a priority UDFA. Me personally I have a 5th round slot on him. I like his upside - I'm not wanting him to be the first CB I draft necessarily OR hopefully, but I like him and see a solid chance of him to become a starter. [B]Lamont Wade - Penn State 5'9' 190lbs (listed as a S)[/B] This dude has Sullivan replacement or roaming safety replacement written all over him IMO. Do NOT let his demeanor draw any thoughts of being timid, he will attack the ball whether in the air or in the arms of a player. A guy with a nack for causing turnovers, in one game against Ohio State he punched out 3! He is a Packer guy IMO, conservative thoughtful guy/father off the field that has talked about the comittment to proper sleep, eating ettiquette and has cut his body fat well below 6% body fat. Just peep his short video he sent out on his twitter recently: [URL]https://www.inquirer.com/college-sports/penn-state/lamont-wade-nfl-draft-penn-state-20210115.html[/URL] I personally, similar to Rochell, have him circled as a high 5th round grade. I say that, knowing that he could be a needed grab in the 4th...but unlike Rochell I do not think for a second he slips past the 6th. He has a lot of intangibles, and I think the rest can grow or be coached up. [B]Caden Sterns - Texas 6'0' (some places say 6'1') 210lbs (listed as a S)[/B] Listed after Wade, but not because of any reason other than timing of typing. Sterns is a guy I LOVE for the slot and safety depth. While he is yes built like a SS, this dude's best quality his COVERAGE ability. He has comfort and experience in singe high, two high, box, and the nickel role. This man's ceiling reminds me of a player we all wish we had back, Hyde. Watching some of his 19' games compared to 20' his contribution in stopping the running game took the biggest strides. End of 3rd/4th round grade from me for him. [/QUOTE]
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