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<blockquote data-quote="OldSchool101" data-source="post: 876208" data-attributes="member: 10086"><p>You hit right on it. The Packers are not immune to squandering 1st rounders like everyone else. I would ask those fans who are begrudgingly and unforgivingly upset a question? </p><p></p><p>1. How many of this list would single handily push GB over the top to a point where we’d dominate SF 49ers like they did us?? Even squeak out a last sec Win?</p><p></p><p>To be fair.. I’ll use only picks between #24-#32 overall (2 places before we picked at #26 to 2 places after our original selection at #30)</p><p>Rookie Kenny Clark (2016) <strong>Pick</strong>: 27th <strong>overall</strong>.</p><p>Rookie D. Randall (2015) <strong>Pick</strong>: 30th <strong>overall</strong></p><p>Rookie Jones (2013) <strong>Pick</strong>: 26th <strong>overall</strong>. ..</p><p>Rookie Nick Perry (2012) <strong>Pick</strong>: 28th <strong>overall</strong>. ... Rookie Derek Sherrod (2011) <strong>Pick</strong>: 32nd <strong>overall</strong>.</p><p>Rookie Clay Matthews (2009) <strong>Pick</strong> #26 <strong>overall</strong></p><p>Rookie Aaron Rodgers (2005) <strong>Pick</strong> #24 <strong>overall</strong></p><p>Rookie Ahmad Carroll (2004) <strong>Pick</strong> #24 <strong>overall</strong></p><p>Rookie Nick Barnett (2003) <strong>Pick</strong> #29 <strong>overall</strong></p><p></p><p>I believe this to be a large enough sample size to illustrate what you’re getting towards the end of day 1 drafting. We can reasonably argue that 2-3 of those 9 would be instant producers in their Rookie season. Kenny Clark, Clay Mathews and Nick Barnett.</p><p></p><p>In his first 2 seasons Kenny Clark averaged 38 tackles, 2.25 sacks, 1FF, 1PD per season. I would argue back he’s Eliminated from a “Probowl or 1st team type nod inside 2 season. While a great player he would have little impact on GB beating SF until year 3.</p><p></p><p>I shouldn’t even have to talk about the next FOUR.. selections in our range and inside 2 seasons.. I won’t waste yours or my time and their collective production was bordering on embarrassing, considering the expectation of combined draft collateral used.</p><p></p><p>I’d argue Clay Mathews is the best example of what we missed at #26 overall.</p><p></p><p>The only other selection worth taking a position of him being able to make a sizable impact inside 2 seasons was Nick Barnett. While he became a very solid and respectable producer year 1 (112 Tot Tackles, 3INT, 2 Sacks, 3INT, 3PD. He did not really peak and attain standout recognition until his 3rd season (led the NFC Conference in combined tackles) +1INT, 1Sack, 1PD)). He eventually went All-Pro in in his <strong>FIFTH</strong> season in 2007 and SB Champion in his <strong>EIGHTH</strong> season 2010.</p><p>Out of respect for his great play early on, Barnett is the only other player that comes close to arguing his athleticism could have enough impact to better the team significantly in instantaneous fashion.</p><p></p><p>.111%-333% hit rate at early (or any quantifiable “difference maker”) production.</p><p></p><p> As they say..”Thems not good odds”.</p><p></p><p>It takes more than just 1 rookie drafted player to change the dynamics of a team. If we want to argue “Win Now” you best be presenting veteran players at the top of their game, not rookie 1st round leftovers.</p><p></p><p>Columbo.. “Oh and wait! Just One <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="☝️" title="Index pointing up :point_up:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/7.0/png/unicode/64/261d.png" data-shortname=":point_up:" /> More Thing!</p><p>Now if CeeDee Lamb we’re there at #26? I’m mad with the rest of you <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":laugh:" title="Laugh :laugh:" data-shortname=":laugh:" /> (Squinting my eyes and Winking my eyebrows Peter Falk style)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OldSchool101, post: 876208, member: 10086"] You hit right on it. The Packers are not immune to squandering 1st rounders like everyone else. I would ask those fans who are begrudgingly and unforgivingly upset a question? 1. How many of this list would single handily push GB over the top to a point where we’d dominate SF 49ers like they did us?? Even squeak out a last sec Win? To be fair.. I’ll use only picks between #24-#32 overall (2 places before we picked at #26 to 2 places after our original selection at #30) Rookie Kenny Clark (2016) [B]Pick[/B]: 27th [B]overall[/B]. Rookie D. Randall (2015) [B]Pick[/B]: 30th [B]overall[/B] Rookie Jones (2013) [B]Pick[/B]: 26th [B]overall[/B]. .. Rookie Nick Perry (2012) [B]Pick[/B]: 28th [B]overall[/B]. ... Rookie Derek Sherrod (2011) [B]Pick[/B]: 32nd [B]overall[/B]. Rookie Clay Matthews (2009) [B]Pick[/B] #26 [B]overall[/B] Rookie Aaron Rodgers (2005) [B]Pick[/B] #24 [B]overall[/B] Rookie Ahmad Carroll (2004) [B]Pick[/B] #24 [B]overall[/B] Rookie Nick Barnett (2003) [B]Pick[/B] #29 [B]overall[/B] I believe this to be a large enough sample size to illustrate what you’re getting towards the end of day 1 drafting. We can reasonably argue that 2-3 of those 9 would be instant producers in their Rookie season. Kenny Clark, Clay Mathews and Nick Barnett. In his first 2 seasons Kenny Clark averaged 38 tackles, 2.25 sacks, 1FF, 1PD per season. I would argue back he’s Eliminated from a “Probowl or 1st team type nod inside 2 season. While a great player he would have little impact on GB beating SF until year 3. I shouldn’t even have to talk about the next FOUR.. selections in our range and inside 2 seasons.. I won’t waste yours or my time and their collective production was bordering on embarrassing, considering the expectation of combined draft collateral used. I’d argue Clay Mathews is the best example of what we missed at #26 overall. The only other selection worth taking a position of him being able to make a sizable impact inside 2 seasons was Nick Barnett. While he became a very solid and respectable producer year 1 (112 Tot Tackles, 3INT, 2 Sacks, 3INT, 3PD. He did not really peak and attain standout recognition until his 3rd season (led the NFC Conference in combined tackles) +1INT, 1Sack, 1PD)). He eventually went All-Pro in in his [B]FIFTH[/B] season in 2007 and SB Champion in his [B]EIGHTH[/B] season 2010. Out of respect for his great play early on, Barnett is the only other player that comes close to arguing his athleticism could have enough impact to better the team significantly in instantaneous fashion. .111%-333% hit rate at early (or any quantifiable “difference maker”) production. As they say..”Thems not good odds”. It takes more than just 1 rookie drafted player to change the dynamics of a team. If we want to argue “Win Now” you best be presenting veteran players at the top of their game, not rookie 1st round leftovers. Columbo.. “Oh and wait! Just One ☝️ More Thing! Now if CeeDee Lamb we’re there at #26? I’m mad with the rest of you :laugh: (Squinting my eyes and Winking my eyebrows Peter Falk style) [/QUOTE]
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