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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tynimiller" data-source="post: 865713" data-attributes="member: 6578">First of all the savage mention is one you cannot remove from the discussion of 2018, as without 2018 draft moves, the 2019 draft class isn't the same. Doesn't tip it much either way, but you cannot ignore it.I stated as such that two of the three starters are special teamers and don't do much to sway the scale if you will. However, again you cannot remove it from the equation entirely either. I wasn't attempting to build a case that the 2018 class was amazing, or even good...merely that it was not the utter disaster claimed. I don't see how any draft of 11 players, all of which still have NFL contracts, gave 3 day one starters, 2-3 others that have started along the way and depth guys is an utter disaster is all. I'd bet irregardless of positions, if you told Gute his 2020 draft class could contribute just 1 day one starter, 2-3 game contributors/borderline starters and the rest be depth or guys that show signs of NFL futures he would take that 100%</blockquote>

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