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<blockquote data-quote="Mondio" data-source="post: 711054" data-attributes="member: 10441"><p>There's much more to winning and losing than the single items every body wants to debate to death. it ALL matters. Draft position doesn't dictate success or failure, but I'd sure love the first crack at picking "my" players in every round before being chosen by everyone else. I'd hate to be the team picking first though, because that's a ****** season to sit thru. </p><p></p><p>Those teams are often unstable as well. Rotation at the GM, rotation at coaches, at philosophies, what types of players each new front office wants, or coach wants. How to use them, then toss in the normal aging and injury of the current roster and the thousand other variables that affect each year and bad contracts signed by the previous guy and on and on and on. </p><p></p><p>It's the same reason we see an offensive line built with mostly low round draft picks, but all available and all together with the same coaches for a couple seasons grow into one of the best and we see other position groups or teams that have talented guys that are in their 3rd different offensive philosphy or have a new guy playing next to them every week struggle. of course continuity only helps if you're good, but what determines if you're good? just winning? even Bill B. didn't win all the time. so many variables. </p><p></p><p>when a guy like Sam shields goes undrafted or Tom Brady lasts till practially the end of the draft, of course you can pick good players in every round. But when you're considering all the measurables and then all the immesurables and toss in the human factor and you have to grade guys out. injury history, attitude, young transgressions, mental toughness, the system they played in collegiately, coaching, players next to them, the conference they were in, etc all have to be judged and then you take measurable risks in each round trying to meet what you're going to pay, what you have to do to get them to where you need to be, their eventual guessed ceiling, and how it fits with your scheme puts a lot of players on a similar "round" for a lot of teams. </p><p></p><p>no kidding their are more than 2 good players taken in the 2nd round, but if I trust my evaluation and I have 15 first round grades on guys, and I don't pick till almost the 2nd round. I'm basically picking from my 2nd round pool in the first. I'd rather be able to pick one of those 15.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mondio, post: 711054, member: 10441"] There's much more to winning and losing than the single items every body wants to debate to death. it ALL matters. Draft position doesn't dictate success or failure, but I'd sure love the first crack at picking "my" players in every round before being chosen by everyone else. I'd hate to be the team picking first though, because that's a ****** season to sit thru. Those teams are often unstable as well. Rotation at the GM, rotation at coaches, at philosophies, what types of players each new front office wants, or coach wants. How to use them, then toss in the normal aging and injury of the current roster and the thousand other variables that affect each year and bad contracts signed by the previous guy and on and on and on. It's the same reason we see an offensive line built with mostly low round draft picks, but all available and all together with the same coaches for a couple seasons grow into one of the best and we see other position groups or teams that have talented guys that are in their 3rd different offensive philosphy or have a new guy playing next to them every week struggle. of course continuity only helps if you're good, but what determines if you're good? just winning? even Bill B. didn't win all the time. so many variables. when a guy like Sam shields goes undrafted or Tom Brady lasts till practially the end of the draft, of course you can pick good players in every round. But when you're considering all the measurables and then all the immesurables and toss in the human factor and you have to grade guys out. injury history, attitude, young transgressions, mental toughness, the system they played in collegiately, coaching, players next to them, the conference they were in, etc all have to be judged and then you take measurable risks in each round trying to meet what you're going to pay, what you have to do to get them to where you need to be, their eventual guessed ceiling, and how it fits with your scheme puts a lot of players on a similar "round" for a lot of teams. no kidding their are more than 2 good players taken in the 2nd round, but if I trust my evaluation and I have 15 first round grades on guys, and I don't pick till almost the 2nd round. I'm basically picking from my 2nd round pool in the first. I'd rather be able to pick one of those 15. [/QUOTE]
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