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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Joe Nor Cal Packer" data-source="post: 614097" data-attributes="member: 9805">I didn't say that a team has to have a highly ranked defense to win the SB.  The odds greatly favor teams with a good D. This may just be a difference in what people think is necessary to win a title.  I believe that the majority of the time, at the championship level, teams with a good to great D will beat teams with a good to great O.  I'm sure the stats can be sliced and diced to support either position.  And maybe in the modern NFL, with rule changes that tend to favor the O, that's going to turn around.  And STs almost always plays a role in chanpionships.  Look at the Packers in 96-97.  And STs played a big role in the Packers loss to Seattle in the last NFCC.  The fake field goal would have been spotted by a great ST coach or player.  And the onside kick would have failed if the ST coach had instilled a little more discipline.  Or maybe Bostick is just an idiot.  Either way, it doesn't matter.  I guess my point is that while I love the O the Packers have this year, they will need dramatically improved play from the D and STs to get to SB 50, much less to win it.  And there have been enough offseason changes to the D to support a "wait and see" attitude.  STs I suppose has nowhere to go but up, and they'll have to for the Packers to bring back the Lombardi trophy.</blockquote>

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