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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 476347" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">One of the reasons I started the thread I linked to was specifically to debunk the idea of BPA and begin it by saying IMO no GM has ever strictly adhered to it and it would make no sense to do so.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000000">I didn't avoid the use of the word "need" scrupulously or otherwise. In fact in that thread I quote Thompson in response to a question saying, "It (need) is always going to be a factor, it’s not that it doesn’t factor in…" Where I see need fitting in is as Thompson constructs his draft board. I also agree he doesn't value some positions as highly as others, particularly interior OL. He has used a second and a third rounder on RBs so IMO he's following the trend in the NFL (which emphasizes the passing game over the running game) more than downgrading RBs ala OGs. Or perhaps he downgrades RBs who they view as runners "only" and not threats out of the backfield in the passing game. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000000">I didn't advance the idea of tiers as unique. As far as I could tell at the time it was new to the draft discussions on this board but not a new idea. I brought it up as an explanation of why Thompson departs from a strictly a BPA strategy. (BTW, I also credit B<strong>V</strong>A to an author whose article I linked to.) </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000000">Where we disagree is I do see Thompson's draft philosophy as unique. First, I think he uses the tier concept more than <em>almost</em> any other GM. His history of trading down is evidence of that IMO. Although it may sound mundane IMO he's unique in the discipline he shows in adhering to what his draft board is "telling him". From everything I've read and heard, the reason he's patient and disciplined is all the in-fighting among the scouts and coaching staff has already been resolved and then the draft board is finalized. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000000">You see the Rodgers pick as a need pick and I don't so from my perspective there is no greater example of Thompson's discipline than his first pick as Packers GM. My guess is nearly every team in that draft had Rodgers and Smith graded as the top two QBs by a long shot. Some perhaps even had Rodgers graded slightly ahead of Smith. In addition my guess is every team views QB as the most important position in the NFL. But look at how many GMs passed on him for someone likely rated significantly lower on their draft boards. I think it's also an example of him taking the long view - again, that should be a big "duh!" regarding GMs but IMO most are as focused on the immediate future as their HCs (and sometimes they're one and the same). </span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 476347, member: 4300"] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma]One of the reasons I started the thread I linked to was specifically to debunk the idea of BPA and begin it by saying IMO no GM has ever strictly adhered to it and it would make no sense to do so.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000]I didn't avoid the use of the word "need" scrupulously or otherwise. In fact in that thread I quote Thompson in response to a question saying, "It (need) is always going to be a factor, it’s not that it doesn’t factor in…" Where I see need fitting in is as Thompson constructs his draft board. I also agree he doesn't value some positions as highly as others, particularly interior OL. He has used a second and a third rounder on RBs so IMO he's following the trend in the NFL (which emphasizes the passing game over the running game) more than downgrading RBs ala OGs. Or perhaps he downgrades RBs who they view as runners "only" and not threats out of the backfield in the passing game. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000]I didn't advance the idea of tiers as unique. As far as I could tell at the time it was new to the draft discussions on this board but not a new idea. I brought it up as an explanation of why Thompson departs from a strictly a BPA strategy. (BTW, I also credit B[B]V[/B]A to an author whose article I linked to.) [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000]Where we disagree is I do see Thompson's draft philosophy as unique. First, I think he uses the tier concept more than [I]almost[/I] any other GM. His history of trading down is evidence of that IMO. Although it may sound mundane IMO he's unique in the discipline he shows in adhering to what his draft board is "telling him". From everything I've read and heard, the reason he's patient and disciplined is all the in-fighting among the scouts and coaching staff has already been resolved and then the draft board is finalized. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000]You see the Rodgers pick as a need pick and I don't so from my perspective there is no greater example of Thompson's discipline than his first pick as Packers GM. My guess is nearly every team in that draft had Rodgers and Smith graded as the top two QBs by a long shot. Some perhaps even had Rodgers graded slightly ahead of Smith. In addition my guess is every team views QB as the most important position in the NFL. But look at how many GMs passed on him for someone likely rated significantly lower on their draft boards. I think it's also an example of him taking the long view - again, that should be a big "duh!" regarding GMs but IMO most are as focused on the immediate future as their HCs (and sometimes they're one and the same). [/COLOR][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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