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<blockquote data-quote="DevilDon" data-source="post: 490380" data-attributes="member: 2057"><p>I have never professed to be a great mind in football. I'm a regular guy who knows good and bad ideas when I see them. We're talking leadership here champ and that is something that I know quite a bit about.</p><p>I don't care if you are comfortable with me being confident in my view. I'm not here to give you warm and fuzzies about your positions ThxJack and I am not looking to you to provide me with the same.</p><p>Also, what makes you the end all in determining who knows football? What makes you think your thoughts are the defining factor in who knows football? Because it agrees with a sportswriter you seem to have a warm spot in your heart for?</p><p> </p><p></p><p>OK, but you're not admitting that it isn't predisposed to being a leader. It's not a requirement. My point is positive and probably, anybody, I mean anybody can become a leader, with or without certain DNA markers and you try to use science to show that it's wrong. All science can say is that it's not there to say for certain yet my premise holds water because the world is littered with leaders of underachieving physical tools.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Not at all THxJack, it's obvious to any person who leaders are. Recognizing leadership doesn't mean you're at a void or need that leadership. Think about it, you just said because I didn't need leadership I was oblivious to it. I am here to tell you that you always recognize it.</p><p>Yesssss, you don't have to be a starter to be a team captain. So athletic ability of player matters but not a coach? You don't seem to have all of your ducks in a row ThxJack.</p><p>You either need the athletic ability or you don't. Coaches defy that rule so you don't have a ton of proof behind that idea.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p>It's not just me ThxJack, most people in believe he set out to free the slaves. It's not a matter of what you want to believe but how it actually played out. It's not foolish to post that champ, it's the truth. People don't remember Lincoln for his speaches or his intellect. You don't have to be steady with that, it's the way that it is.</p><p>Remember I'm a veteran so I know the Gettysburg Address and I'm familiar with the Lincoln/Douglas debates. Here's the thing that bothers me about your position ThxJack, you believe your position to the point of obsession. You cant know with any certainty that Lincoln's words were his own. What we CAN know and what we CAN be certain of it that his actions were his own and that he was a leader in action moreso than words.</p><p>His words were only later understood for their value. It took a bullet to get that point across.</p><p>Leaders are made, not born my friend. Lincoln didn't lead by his words nor his intellect, he was remembered for his determination and shame on you for casting aside that side of that man. Being a study of history begs you ask for more than the words and stats, you need to get inside of the mind in that day and age.</p><p>You seem ill prepared to look outside of the box at this point THxJack.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DevilDon, post: 490380, member: 2057"] I have never professed to be a great mind in football. I'm a regular guy who knows good and bad ideas when I see them. We're talking leadership here champ and that is something that I know quite a bit about. I don't care if you are comfortable with me being confident in my view. I'm not here to give you warm and fuzzies about your positions ThxJack and I am not looking to you to provide me with the same. Also, what makes you the end all in determining who knows football? What makes you think your thoughts are the defining factor in who knows football? Because it agrees with a sportswriter you seem to have a warm spot in your heart for? [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma][/FONT][/COLOR] OK, but you're not admitting that it isn't predisposed to being a leader. It's not a requirement. My point is positive and probably, anybody, I mean anybody can become a leader, with or without certain DNA markers and you try to use science to show that it's wrong. All science can say is that it's not there to say for certain yet my premise holds water because the world is littered with leaders of underachieving physical tools. [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/FONT] Not at all THxJack, it's obvious to any person who leaders are. Recognizing leadership doesn't mean you're at a void or need that leadership. Think about it, you just said because I didn't need leadership I was oblivious to it. I am here to tell you that you always recognize it. Yesssss, you don't have to be a starter to be a team captain. So athletic ability of player matters but not a coach? You don't seem to have all of your ducks in a row ThxJack. You either need the athletic ability or you don't. Coaches defy that rule so you don't have a ton of proof behind that idea. [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT] It's not just me ThxJack, most people in believe he set out to free the slaves. It's not a matter of what you want to believe but how it actually played out. It's not foolish to post that champ, it's the truth. People don't remember Lincoln for his speaches or his intellect. You don't have to be steady with that, it's the way that it is. Remember I'm a veteran so I know the Gettysburg Address and I'm familiar with the Lincoln/Douglas debates. Here's the thing that bothers me about your position ThxJack, you believe your position to the point of obsession. You cant know with any certainty that Lincoln's words were his own. What we CAN know and what we CAN be certain of it that his actions were his own and that he was a leader in action moreso than words. His words were only later understood for their value. It took a bullet to get that point across. Leaders are made, not born my friend. Lincoln didn't lead by his words nor his intellect, he was remembered for his determination and shame on you for casting aside that side of that man. Being a study of history begs you ask for more than the words and stats, you need to get inside of the mind in that day and age. You seem ill prepared to look outside of the box at this point THxJack. [/QUOTE]
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