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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 490304" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000000">Obsessed much Devil? Two responses to the same post? LOL Repeatedly posting things like, “</span><span style="color: #141414">You might want to disagree but you would be wrong”, “I did and will continue to point it out to you until you get it in your head”, “…and I am correct”, and “it will never change the fact that you are inherently wrong” </span><span style="color: #000000">reminds me of posters who profess how great their knowledge of football is on boards like this. I have yet to find such a poster who was actually really well versed in football. IOW, if your argument isn’t strong enough to convince others, professing it is as you have just looks foolish. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Because you presented your opinion as a fact I pointed to a theory which contradicts your opinion. I even underlined the relevant portion for you: “This theory postulates that people are either born or not born with the <em>qualities</em> that <u>predispose them to success in leadership roles</u>”. I believe “certain <u>inherited</u> qualities, such as personality and cognitive ability” underlie leadership. But I’m not so foolish as to present that opinion as a fact. That’s what you are doing – see the difference? I’m fine with each of us holding different opinions, you’re obsessed with the idea your opinion/theory is a fact. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000000">IMO you’ve argued yourself into a corner posting, </span><span style="color: #141414">“Nobody would dispute who is the leader in any crowded room.” </span><span style="color: #000000">And then “</span><span style="color: #141414">when I played football it didn't ever occur to me to look to another player for leadership.” OK, OK I just thought that obvious contradiction was funny – I mean apparently <em>you</em> would have disputed who the leader was on your team because you admit to being oblivious to the leadership of others. But seriously, in this thread you’ve confused leadership with inspiration and perseverance. You’ve signed on to the idea that every player on a 53 man NFL roster has an equal opportunity to be a team leader, no matter his status on the team. Player #53 has just as good a chance as Rodgers to be the team leader, right? (BTW, common sense and years of observation should have dissuaded you of that idea. Also, the athletic ability of a coach isn’t important because he already has a degree of leadership status on the team, but it is important to the status of players.) And you’ve posted, “It's the highest order of leadership's opinion that these are the qualities that define the term leadership.” HUH??!! “Leadership’s opinion?” </span></span><span style="color: #141414"><span style="font-family: 'Wingdings'"><img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/biggrin.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /> </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000000">How sad you don’t remember Lincoln for his great intellect. And how foolish of you to post, “</span><span style="color: #141414">But just this once please recognize that nobody will remember Lincoln for his intelligence as for his perseverance” I have studied history and I remember Lincoln for both. And o</span><span style="color: #000000">f course I never alleged to have “first hand knowledge” of Lincoln – that straw man is just another example of the weakness of your argument. While I don’t “</span><em><span style="color: #141414">have</span></em><span style="color: #141414"> documents that show Lincoln as a mental giant” if you’d “love to view them” you can view them online. Retrieve both of his inaugural addresses, particularly the second one. And re-read the Gettysburg Address, perhaps the most brilliantly concise speech ever given on American soil. But those are the easy ones. If you haven’t already</span><span style="color: #000000">, read his speech at Cooper Union. He brilliantly dissects Stephen Douglas’ assertion about the founders’ views on slavery. Unlike modern politicians, those are all the words of Lincoln, not a speech writer. It's no secret to those who have read Lincoln's words he was indeed a mental giant. </span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 490304, member: 4300"] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000]Obsessed much Devil? Two responses to the same post? LOL Repeatedly posting things like, “[/COLOR][COLOR=#141414]You might want to disagree but you would be wrong”, “I did and will continue to point it out to you until you get it in your head”, “…and I am correct”, and “it will never change the fact that you are inherently wrong” [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]reminds me of posters who profess how great their knowledge of football is on boards like this. I have yet to find such a poster who was actually really well versed in football. IOW, if your argument isn’t strong enough to convince others, professing it is as you have just looks foolish. [/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma]Because you presented your opinion as a fact I pointed to a theory which contradicts your opinion. I even underlined the relevant portion for you: “This theory postulates that people are either born or not born with the [I]qualities[/I] that [U]predispose them to success in leadership roles[/U]”. I believe “certain [U]inherited[/U] qualities, such as personality and cognitive ability” underlie leadership. But I’m not so foolish as to present that opinion as a fact. That’s what you are doing – see the difference? I’m fine with each of us holding different opinions, you’re obsessed with the idea your opinion/theory is a fact. [/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000]IMO you’ve argued yourself into a corner posting, [/COLOR][COLOR=#141414]“Nobody would dispute who is the leader in any crowded room.” [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]And then “[/COLOR][COLOR=#141414]when I played football it didn't ever occur to me to look to another player for leadership.” OK, OK I just thought that obvious contradiction was funny – I mean apparently [I]you[/I] would have disputed who the leader was on your team because you admit to being oblivious to the leadership of others. But seriously, in this thread you’ve confused leadership with inspiration and perseverance. You’ve signed on to the idea that every player on a 53 man NFL roster has an equal opportunity to be a team leader, no matter his status on the team. Player #53 has just as good a chance as Rodgers to be the team leader, right? (BTW, common sense and years of observation should have dissuaded you of that idea. Also, the athletic ability of a coach isn’t important because he already has a degree of leadership status on the team, but it is important to the status of players.) And you’ve posted, “It's the highest order of leadership's opinion that these are the qualities that define the term leadership.” HUH??!! “Leadership’s opinion?” [/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Wingdings]:D [/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000]How sad you don’t remember Lincoln for his great intellect. And how foolish of you to post, “[/COLOR][COLOR=#141414]But just this once please recognize that nobody will remember Lincoln for his intelligence as for his perseverance” I have studied history and I remember Lincoln for both. And o[/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]f course I never alleged to have “first hand knowledge” of Lincoln – that straw man is just another example of the weakness of your argument. While I don’t “[/COLOR][I][COLOR=#141414]have[/COLOR][/I][COLOR=#141414] documents that show Lincoln as a mental giant” if you’d “love to view them” you can view them online. Retrieve both of his inaugural addresses, particularly the second one. And re-read the Gettysburg Address, perhaps the most brilliantly concise speech ever given on American soil. But those are the easy ones. If you haven’t already[/COLOR][COLOR=#000000], read his speech at Cooper Union. He brilliantly dissects Stephen Douglas’ assertion about the founders’ views on slavery. Unlike modern politicians, those are all the words of Lincoln, not a speech writer. It's no secret to those who have read Lincoln's words he was indeed a mental giant. [/COLOR][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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