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<blockquote data-quote="Clay's Jock Strap" data-source="post: 273169" data-attributes="member: 1977"><p>Be he made them - again and again and again.</p><p></p><p>Listen, I'm not saying he was the best QB ever but he was certainly in that elite group for legitimate discussion of best ever. No amount of trying to spin away his accomplishments can ever change that. I'd put him in my top 5. Again, I don't know if it is even possible to determine the best ever at any position. It is simply too difficult to sort through all of the variables like how good the supporting cast was, eras and changes to/evolution of the game (artificial via rules changes vs natural evolution) and simple personal preference. There is no magic formula to plug into that will spit out a definitive answer. But people who want to make an argument for Montana at the top have a real strong case. He's not my choice but again, it all opinion (hopefully backed up by a lot of facts) and I'd have a really hard time not having him in my all time top 5.</p><p></p><p>So many great ones though... Unitas, Montana, Starr, Elway, Favre, Graham, Marino, Bradshaw, Manning, Brady, Young... </p><p></p><p>Personally, my top 5 would be Johnny U, Montana, Starr, Brady and Manning... But that is just me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Clay's Jock Strap, post: 273169, member: 1977"] Be he made them - again and again and again. Listen, I'm not saying he was the best QB ever but he was certainly in that elite group for legitimate discussion of best ever. No amount of trying to spin away his accomplishments can ever change that. I'd put him in my top 5. Again, I don't know if it is even possible to determine the best ever at any position. It is simply too difficult to sort through all of the variables like how good the supporting cast was, eras and changes to/evolution of the game (artificial via rules changes vs natural evolution) and simple personal preference. There is no magic formula to plug into that will spit out a definitive answer. But people who want to make an argument for Montana at the top have a real strong case. He's not my choice but again, it all opinion (hopefully backed up by a lot of facts) and I'd have a really hard time not having him in my all time top 5. So many great ones though... Unitas, Montana, Starr, Elway, Favre, Graham, Marino, Bradshaw, Manning, Brady, Young... Personally, my top 5 would be Johnny U, Montana, Starr, Brady and Manning... But that is just me. [/QUOTE]
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