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<blockquote data-quote="tynimiller" data-source="post: 907858" data-attributes="member: 6578"><p>I gotta find the article now again, but read a write up expressing the thought process of the RAS calculations are GOLD when the player fits the prototypical position mold. One of their examples was the slot position WR. The height and weight lines of slot receivers in the way WR RAS is calculated automatically knocks them down quite severely...and they must be a freak of an athlete elsewhere to make up for it and break 8, let alone get above 9...but he then took it a step further and used Amari Rodgers as a prime example. RAS illustrates what the body is capable but not the player necessarily. Rodgers breaks and anticipation explodes off the tape when watched - which is why many GMs appear to have "ignored" his RAS to a point.</p><p></p><p>He also brought up something I do as well, Newman is prime example. Everyone except one SI article says he has 32.25 arms, I foresee a move into guard, which changes his RAS from 7.59 to 8.72.</p><p></p><p>All that to say, the break from the normal 8.00 threshold didn't shock me, given the player types they were in three cases (Kylin just isn't that quick cone oriented type guy, but like Amari he puts up excellent film and projects well nontheless):</p><p></p><p><strong>Amari Rodgers</strong> - His measurables indicate a RB, but his vision and hand skills have long since made a move to WR the gold move for him. RAS is great, and I use it heavily, but as many on the draft discussions know I didn't care and LOVED Amari. When you watch his film you see immense anticipation, ability to break his defender off in routes or their ankles with the ball - his vision and ability to anticipate cannot be measured and calculated. He also clearly plays different in pads and between the lines than with shorts on.</p><p></p><p><strong>Slaton</strong> - Makes sense his RAS would be lower than the 8.00 - and honestly is shocking it is nearly there as is (7.96). This dude is BIG, which is why his number is dragged down due to shuttle and cone - change those figures to a 5 rating (which is still not great) and his number skyrockets. The thing that always boggled my mind was his 10 yard split of his at his size, it is ludacris really. His much larger than normal size however, alone is why I wasn't too worried. Really any DL that flirts with or breaks 325 - I've always lowered my RAS desired to about 7.5 or so personally.</p><p></p><p><strong>Shemar Jean-Charles</strong> - His RAS took hits just as Amari or Slaton's did in that his size measurables from the start don't do him any favors...however his play style also is one that I think a team must rely on the tape and not the measurables for. One analyst I was listening to on the draft day coverage on ESPN radio stated Shemar is a very responsive player, and how he explained it was that as every defender knows the advantage goes to the receiver every play in that they know the play call, they know the route coming...the defender must be quick in response and the common term folks use is "mirror". Shemar excels with quick twitch responsive movements and while his measurables don't appear to illustrate an amazing DB, his play and constant ability to break up throws and such make him a Day 3 guy Defensive coordinators would love to see if he can do that at the next level with very little risk.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tynimiller, post: 907858, member: 6578"] I gotta find the article now again, but read a write up expressing the thought process of the RAS calculations are GOLD when the player fits the prototypical position mold. One of their examples was the slot position WR. The height and weight lines of slot receivers in the way WR RAS is calculated automatically knocks them down quite severely...and they must be a freak of an athlete elsewhere to make up for it and break 8, let alone get above 9...but he then took it a step further and used Amari Rodgers as a prime example. RAS illustrates what the body is capable but not the player necessarily. Rodgers breaks and anticipation explodes off the tape when watched - which is why many GMs appear to have "ignored" his RAS to a point. He also brought up something I do as well, Newman is prime example. Everyone except one SI article says he has 32.25 arms, I foresee a move into guard, which changes his RAS from 7.59 to 8.72. All that to say, the break from the normal 8.00 threshold didn't shock me, given the player types they were in three cases (Kylin just isn't that quick cone oriented type guy, but like Amari he puts up excellent film and projects well nontheless): [B]Amari Rodgers[/B] - His measurables indicate a RB, but his vision and hand skills have long since made a move to WR the gold move for him. RAS is great, and I use it heavily, but as many on the draft discussions know I didn't care and LOVED Amari. When you watch his film you see immense anticipation, ability to break his defender off in routes or their ankles with the ball - his vision and ability to anticipate cannot be measured and calculated. He also clearly plays different in pads and between the lines than with shorts on. [B]Slaton[/B] - Makes sense his RAS would be lower than the 8.00 - and honestly is shocking it is nearly there as is (7.96). This dude is BIG, which is why his number is dragged down due to shuttle and cone - change those figures to a 5 rating (which is still not great) and his number skyrockets. The thing that always boggled my mind was his 10 yard split of his at his size, it is ludacris really. His much larger than normal size however, alone is why I wasn't too worried. Really any DL that flirts with or breaks 325 - I've always lowered my RAS desired to about 7.5 or so personally. [B]Shemar Jean-Charles[/B] - His RAS took hits just as Amari or Slaton's did in that his size measurables from the start don't do him any favors...however his play style also is one that I think a team must rely on the tape and not the measurables for. One analyst I was listening to on the draft day coverage on ESPN radio stated Shemar is a very responsive player, and how he explained it was that as every defender knows the advantage goes to the receiver every play in that they know the play call, they know the route coming...the defender must be quick in response and the common term folks use is "mirror". Shemar excels with quick twitch responsive movements and while his measurables don't appear to illustrate an amazing DB, his play and constant ability to break up throws and such make him a Day 3 guy Defensive coordinators would love to see if he can do that at the next level with very little risk. [/QUOTE]
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