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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 435213" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">weeds, the Packers have to clear cap space before they tag Flynn because he can sign the tender immediately and if he does the $14.4M counts against the cap when he signs it. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Regarding Raptorman, IMO he has brought up some salient issues and posts in a reasonable and rational way, but he’s also brought up a couple issues that don’t have merit. For example, he’s posted that Flynn could refuse to sign the franchise tag tender for months and thereby prevent a trade. While that’s possible, what would motivate Flynn to do that? First by signing the tag he’s immediately guaranteed about $14.4M for one year’s work. Second, by signing the tag and cooperating with the trade he becomes a starting NFL QB and will most likely be offered a contract with at least $14.4M guaranteed dollars with an opportunity to make much more. If Flynn is motivated by the desire to be a starting NFL QB, he cooperates with a trade. If he’s motivated more by money, he signs the tag. And if he sits “in limbo” through the draft teams will likely make other plans and the Packers could withdraw the tag and Flynn would be in a much worse position. And if it appears to other teams that he would be happy to sit on the bench behind Rodgers, even though he'd be making a ton of money, that lessens his value league-wide IMO. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Raptorman has also posted about tampering being a large obstacle to a tag and trade deal but seems to have relented some on that point in his most recent post. The latest issue he’s brought up with which I disagree is the “problem” that Thompson won’t be able to be aggressive in the first few days of free agency. That’s at least a little humorous on its face, isn’t it? IMO that shouldn’t even appear last on a list of concerns since we aren’t talking about Dan Snyder’s team. If a tag and trade happens I expect it to happen something like this: The Packers waive Clifton and either re-do Driver's deal or waive him. Perhaps they re-do Woodson’s deal to create cap space. They tag Flynn because before March 13th they know two or three teams would like to trade for him. If Thompson believes the timing of the trade is an issue the Packers could spend three or four days fielding offers from the teams interested in Flynn. They could wait a week or more before completing the trade. That scenario wouldn’t hurt the Packers at all. If there is a free agent they’re interested in, most likely it won’t be a top UFA and they could let his agent know they’ll make an offer after the Flynn trade is done. If the player can’t wait that long perhaps he would have used Green Bay for leverage anyway. And at that point it wouldn’t be tampering to have a handshake deal with that player before he signs. </span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 435213, member: 4300"] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma]weeds, the Packers have to clear cap space before they tag Flynn because he can sign the tender immediately and if he does the $14.4M counts against the cap when he signs it. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma]Regarding Raptorman, IMO he has brought up some salient issues and posts in a reasonable and rational way, but he’s also brought up a couple issues that don’t have merit. For example, he’s posted that Flynn could refuse to sign the franchise tag tender for months and thereby prevent a trade. While that’s possible, what would motivate Flynn to do that? First by signing the tag he’s immediately guaranteed about $14.4M for one year’s work. Second, by signing the tag and cooperating with the trade he becomes a starting NFL QB and will most likely be offered a contract with at least $14.4M guaranteed dollars with an opportunity to make much more. If Flynn is motivated by the desire to be a starting NFL QB, he cooperates with a trade. If he’s motivated more by money, he signs the tag. And if he sits “in limbo” through the draft teams will likely make other plans and the Packers could withdraw the tag and Flynn would be in a much worse position. And if it appears to other teams that he would be happy to sit on the bench behind Rodgers, even though he'd be making a ton of money, that lessens his value league-wide IMO. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Tahoma]Raptorman has also posted about tampering being a large obstacle to a tag and trade deal but seems to have relented some on that point in his most recent post. The latest issue he’s brought up with which I disagree is the “problem” that Thompson won’t be able to be aggressive in the first few days of free agency. That’s at least a little humorous on its face, isn’t it? IMO that shouldn’t even appear last on a list of concerns since we aren’t talking about Dan Snyder’s team. If a tag and trade happens I expect it to happen something like this: The Packers waive Clifton and either re-do Driver's deal or waive him. Perhaps they re-do Woodson’s deal to create cap space. They tag Flynn because before March 13th they know two or three teams would like to trade for him. If Thompson believes the timing of the trade is an issue the Packers could spend three or four days fielding offers from the teams interested in Flynn. They could wait a week or more before completing the trade. That scenario wouldn’t hurt the Packers at all. If there is a free agent they’re interested in, most likely it won’t be a top UFA and they could let his agent know they’ll make an offer after the Flynn trade is done. If the player can’t wait that long perhaps he would have used Green Bay for leverage anyway. And at that point it wouldn’t be tampering to have a handshake deal with that player before he signs. [/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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