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<blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 830093" data-attributes="member: 12283"><p>The longer I follow the draft, the more I realize how much I don't know. Every year, people are adamant about so many prospects and projections and every year, the draft defies our expectations. This is what makes it so fun, and so much better than the draft of any other sport. However, this realization has also made me less specific in my own projections, as I realize that I really don't have a really particular grip on where most of these prospects are going.</p><p></p><p>So with that said, here is my final list of players at each position that I like for the Packers when I factor the following criteria: 1) who could realistically be there (for pick #12)? 2) what do they need at each position? 3) what players fit what they want to do? 4) how does their athletic talent fit tendencies? 5) how good is their film? </p><p></p><p>I don't think these are necessarily the best players at their respective positions, nor are these the only ones I like, but when I put the criteria together, these are the guys who stand out to me.</p><p></p><p><strong>Quarterback: </strong>At most, the Packers should just invest a later pick in a developmental prospect who can join the Kizer/Boyle mix and hopefully improve the backup situation.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Brett Rypien, Boise State (5th-6th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Easton Stick, North Dakota State (6th-7th)</li> </ul><p><strong>Running Back: </strong>Aaron Jones is a stud and he is tailor made to run in a wide zone offense, so I think this position is more about compliment than feature. Thus I am looking for talented runners who might be had later who can compete with Williams for that spell back role. Special teams help is a bonus. </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Devine Ozigbo, Nebraska (4th-5th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Troy Pollard, Memphis (4th-5th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Travis Homer, Miami (5th-6th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Alex Barnes, KSU (5th-6th)</li> </ul><p><strong>Tight End: </strong>TE is a spot that the Packers could invest in as early as #12, and as late as the middle rounds, depending on when value presents itself. Given LaFleur's offense, the importance of being multiple from the same personnel groupings, and the importance of auxiliary blocking in the running game, I am prioritizing blocking in the guys that I want for the Packers. Ideally, an in-line "Y" tight end could be found, but an "H" should be in play too. </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">T.J. Hockenson (Y), Iowa (1st)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Irv Smith (H), Alabama (2nd-3rd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Kahale Warring (Y), SDSU (2nd-3rd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Foster Moreau (Y/H), LSU (4th-5th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Trevon Wesco (H/Y), WVU (4th-5th)</li> </ul><p><strong>Wide Receiver: </strong>The Packers have a lot of potential in this position group already, but they are lacking a YAC playmaker to man the slot. Thus that is the style of player I'd like to see them target. If they can return punts, that would be fantastic, because our PR game is pitiful. </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A.J. Brown, Ole Miss (1st-2nd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Deebo Samuel, South Carolina (2nd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mecole Hardman, Georgia (3rd-4th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Diontae Johnson, Toledo (4th-5th)</li> </ul><p><strong>Offensive Tackle: </strong>Unless internally there is a ton of optimism that Spriggs has or will turn a corner, Green Bay needs to find a RT of the future sooner rather than later. I would be disappointed if that didn't happen this year, as the tackle class is good and fairly deep. I am hoping they land a player in the top 3 rounds.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Jonah Williams (T/G), Alabama (1st)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Andre Dillard (OT), WSU (1st)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Dalton Risner (T/G), KSU (1st-2nd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Kaleb McGary (OT), UW (2nd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Max Scharping (T/G), NIU (2nd-3rd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Chuma Edoga (OT), USC (3rd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Trey Pipkins (OT), Sioux Falls (4th)</li> </ul><p><strong>Interior Offensive Line: </strong>This position is a little hard for me to read, as there are a lot of bodies on the roster along the interior, but we don't know how they fit into the new offense. Perhaps the FO feels great about some of the players in house, and this is low priority. Or perhaps LaFleur and Gute have performed an internal review, and a new guard is high on their list. Hard to say. But here are some guys that I think would fit.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Chris Lindstrom (G/T), Boston College (1st-2nd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Elgton Jenkins (C/G), Miss. State (1st-2nd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Connor McGovern (G/C), Penn State (2nd-3rd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Michael Jordan (G/C), Ohio State (3rd-4th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Hjalte Froholdt (C/G), Arkansas (4th-5th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mitch Hyatt (G/T), Clemson (5th-6th)</li> </ul><p><strong>Interior Defensive Line: </strong>Lots of pundits have lauded this defensive line class, and I understand that it's good at the top, but there is very little depth along the interior. Perhaps the Packers won't see it that way, but after round one, I don't find a lot of guys that interest me. If the right guy is there early, it's never a bad thing to add to the trenches, but I don't think it's critical that they invest a ton here.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Christian Wilkins (3T), Clemson (1st)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Jerry Tillery (5T/3T), Notre Dame (1st-2nd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Armon Watts (5T/3T), Arkansas (3rd-4th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Khalen Saunders (3T/1T), W. Illinois (3rd-4th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Renell Wren (5T/3T), Arizona State (3rd-4th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Daniel Wise (3T), Kansas (4th-5th)</li> </ul><p><strong>Edge: </strong>Much like wide receiver, the Packers have a variety of skill-sets here already, with one notably missing. They have a jumbo edge who can reduce inside (Z. Smith), a reliable edge setter for the strong side (P. Smith), and a multiple player who can blitz/drop (K. Fackrell), but they don't have a burner who can threaten the edge with pure speed. So that's what I'm looking for.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ben Banogu, TCU (3rd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Christian Miller, Alabama (3rd-4th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Oshane Ximines, Old Dominion (3rd-4th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Jordan Brailford, Oklahoma State (4th-5th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Justin Hollins, Oregon (4th-5th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Kaden Elliss, Idaho (6th)</li> </ul><p><strong>Off-Ball Linebacker: </strong>This is another spot that, like iOL, is hard to figure. It may be that the FO has plans to extend Martinez and likes their odds that Burks or Jones emerge as a good WILL and thus only target depth. Or it may be that they want to let Martinez walk and are unsure of the young guys. So I could envision this position being the 1st pick or a late round situation depending on internal feelings. There is only one guy I love in the 1st round. If they can't get him, I'd like them to add depth with some potential to possibly supplant Martinez (or at least give them some leverage so they don't <em>have </em>to pay him tons of money).</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Devin Bush, Michigan (1st)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Jahlani Tavai, Hawaii (3rd-4th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Germaine Pratt, N.C. State (3rd-4th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cameron Smith, USC (4th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">T.J. Edwards, Wisconsin (4th-5th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bobby Okereke, Stanford (4th-5th)</li> </ul><p><strong>Safety: </strong>There is a huge roster hole here next to Amos. I view Jones as a dime linebacker. I guess Raven Greene is the next best option currently on the roster? It's not a great picture. Thus I expect this to be an early priority and would hope for someone with a combo skill-set who would allow Pettine to use his starting safeties interchangeably. </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Juan Thornhill, Virginia (1st-2nd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Nasir Adderley, Delaware (2nd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, Florida (2nd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Darnell Savage, Maryland (2nd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mike Edwards, Kentucky (3rd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Amani Hooker, Iowa (3rd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sheldrick Redwine, Miami (4th)</li> </ul><p><strong>Cornerback: </strong>Given recent investments in this position coupled with a poor draft class, I could envision them entirely skipping it. However, it is the most critical spot in Pettine's defense so a corner being selected anywhere should surprise exactly no one (except maybe at #12). I haven't spent much time on this position group, but here are a handful of man corners who I think are interesting.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">David Long, Michigan (1st-2nd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sean Bunting, W. Michigan (1st-2nd)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Corey Ballentine, Washburn (3rd-4th)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Jimmy Moreland, James Madison (4th-5th)</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dantés, post: 830093, member: 12283"] The longer I follow the draft, the more I realize how much I don't know. Every year, people are adamant about so many prospects and projections and every year, the draft defies our expectations. This is what makes it so fun, and so much better than the draft of any other sport. However, this realization has also made me less specific in my own projections, as I realize that I really don't have a really particular grip on where most of these prospects are going. So with that said, here is my final list of players at each position that I like for the Packers when I factor the following criteria: 1) who could realistically be there (for pick #12)? 2) what do they need at each position? 3) what players fit what they want to do? 4) how does their athletic talent fit tendencies? 5) how good is their film? I don't think these are necessarily the best players at their respective positions, nor are these the only ones I like, but when I put the criteria together, these are the guys who stand out to me. [B]Quarterback: [/B]At most, the Packers should just invest a later pick in a developmental prospect who can join the Kizer/Boyle mix and hopefully improve the backup situation. [LIST] [*]Brett Rypien, Boise State (5th-6th) [*]Easton Stick, North Dakota State (6th-7th) [/LIST] [B]Running Back: [/B]Aaron Jones is a stud and he is tailor made to run in a wide zone offense, so I think this position is more about compliment than feature. Thus I am looking for talented runners who might be had later who can compete with Williams for that spell back role. Special teams help is a bonus. [LIST] [*]Devine Ozigbo, Nebraska (4th-5th) [*]Troy Pollard, Memphis (4th-5th) [*]Travis Homer, Miami (5th-6th) [*]Alex Barnes, KSU (5th-6th) [/LIST] [B]Tight End: [/B]TE is a spot that the Packers could invest in as early as #12, and as late as the middle rounds, depending on when value presents itself. Given LaFleur's offense, the importance of being multiple from the same personnel groupings, and the importance of auxiliary blocking in the running game, I am prioritizing blocking in the guys that I want for the Packers. Ideally, an in-line "Y" tight end could be found, but an "H" should be in play too. [LIST] [*]T.J. Hockenson (Y), Iowa (1st) [*]Irv Smith (H), Alabama (2nd-3rd) [*]Kahale Warring (Y), SDSU (2nd-3rd) [*]Foster Moreau (Y/H), LSU (4th-5th) [*]Trevon Wesco (H/Y), WVU (4th-5th) [/LIST] [B]Wide Receiver: [/B]The Packers have a lot of potential in this position group already, but they are lacking a YAC playmaker to man the slot. Thus that is the style of player I'd like to see them target. If they can return punts, that would be fantastic, because our PR game is pitiful. [LIST] [*]A.J. Brown, Ole Miss (1st-2nd) [*]Deebo Samuel, South Carolina (2nd) [*]Mecole Hardman, Georgia (3rd-4th) [*]Diontae Johnson, Toledo (4th-5th) [/LIST] [B]Offensive Tackle: [/B]Unless internally there is a ton of optimism that Spriggs has or will turn a corner, Green Bay needs to find a RT of the future sooner rather than later. I would be disappointed if that didn't happen this year, as the tackle class is good and fairly deep. I am hoping they land a player in the top 3 rounds. [LIST] [*]Jonah Williams (T/G), Alabama (1st) [*]Andre Dillard (OT), WSU (1st) [*]Dalton Risner (T/G), KSU (1st-2nd) [*]Kaleb McGary (OT), UW (2nd) [*]Max Scharping (T/G), NIU (2nd-3rd) [*]Chuma Edoga (OT), USC (3rd) [*]Trey Pipkins (OT), Sioux Falls (4th) [/LIST] [B]Interior Offensive Line: [/B]This position is a little hard for me to read, as there are a lot of bodies on the roster along the interior, but we don't know how they fit into the new offense. Perhaps the FO feels great about some of the players in house, and this is low priority. Or perhaps LaFleur and Gute have performed an internal review, and a new guard is high on their list. Hard to say. But here are some guys that I think would fit. [LIST] [*]Chris Lindstrom (G/T), Boston College (1st-2nd) [*]Elgton Jenkins (C/G), Miss. State (1st-2nd) [*]Connor McGovern (G/C), Penn State (2nd-3rd) [*]Michael Jordan (G/C), Ohio State (3rd-4th) [*]Hjalte Froholdt (C/G), Arkansas (4th-5th) [*]Mitch Hyatt (G/T), Clemson (5th-6th) [/LIST] [B]Interior Defensive Line: [/B]Lots of pundits have lauded this defensive line class, and I understand that it's good at the top, but there is very little depth along the interior. Perhaps the Packers won't see it that way, but after round one, I don't find a lot of guys that interest me. If the right guy is there early, it's never a bad thing to add to the trenches, but I don't think it's critical that they invest a ton here. [LIST] [*]Christian Wilkins (3T), Clemson (1st) [*]Jerry Tillery (5T/3T), Notre Dame (1st-2nd) [*]Armon Watts (5T/3T), Arkansas (3rd-4th) [*]Khalen Saunders (3T/1T), W. Illinois (3rd-4th) [*]Renell Wren (5T/3T), Arizona State (3rd-4th) [*]Daniel Wise (3T), Kansas (4th-5th) [/LIST] [B]Edge: [/B]Much like wide receiver, the Packers have a variety of skill-sets here already, with one notably missing. They have a jumbo edge who can reduce inside (Z. Smith), a reliable edge setter for the strong side (P. Smith), and a multiple player who can blitz/drop (K. Fackrell), but they don't have a burner who can threaten the edge with pure speed. So that's what I'm looking for. [LIST] [*]Ben Banogu, TCU (3rd) [*]Christian Miller, Alabama (3rd-4th) [*]Oshane Ximines, Old Dominion (3rd-4th) [*]Jordan Brailford, Oklahoma State (4th-5th) [*]Justin Hollins, Oregon (4th-5th) [*]Kaden Elliss, Idaho (6th) [/LIST] [B]Off-Ball Linebacker: [/B]This is another spot that, like iOL, is hard to figure. It may be that the FO has plans to extend Martinez and likes their odds that Burks or Jones emerge as a good WILL and thus only target depth. Or it may be that they want to let Martinez walk and are unsure of the young guys. So I could envision this position being the 1st pick or a late round situation depending on internal feelings. There is only one guy I love in the 1st round. If they can't get him, I'd like them to add depth with some potential to possibly supplant Martinez (or at least give them some leverage so they don't [I]have [/I]to pay him tons of money). [LIST] [*]Devin Bush, Michigan (1st) [*]Jahlani Tavai, Hawaii (3rd-4th) [*]Germaine Pratt, N.C. State (3rd-4th) [*]Cameron Smith, USC (4th) [*]T.J. Edwards, Wisconsin (4th-5th) [*]Bobby Okereke, Stanford (4th-5th) [/LIST] [B]Safety: [/B]There is a huge roster hole here next to Amos. I view Jones as a dime linebacker. I guess Raven Greene is the next best option currently on the roster? It's not a great picture. Thus I expect this to be an early priority and would hope for someone with a combo skill-set who would allow Pettine to use his starting safeties interchangeably. [LIST] [*]Juan Thornhill, Virginia (1st-2nd) [*]Nasir Adderley, Delaware (2nd) [*]Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, Florida (2nd) [*]Darnell Savage, Maryland (2nd) [*]Mike Edwards, Kentucky (3rd) [*]Amani Hooker, Iowa (3rd) [*]Sheldrick Redwine, Miami (4th) [/LIST] [B]Cornerback: [/B]Given recent investments in this position coupled with a poor draft class, I could envision them entirely skipping it. However, it is the most critical spot in Pettine's defense so a corner being selected anywhere should surprise exactly no one (except maybe at #12). I haven't spent much time on this position group, but here are a handful of man corners who I think are interesting. [LIST] [*]David Long, Michigan (1st-2nd) [*]Sean Bunting, W. Michigan (1st-2nd) [*]Corey Ballentine, Washburn (3rd-4th) [*]Jimmy Moreland, James Madison (4th-5th) [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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