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<blockquote data-quote="PackersRS" data-source="post: 301932" data-attributes="member: 1429"><p>If anyone frequents cheeseheadtv, I'm sorry for being repetitive, but I'll copy almost exactly what I said there in here, and I'm not gonna talk again about this subject, because it has been said too many times.</p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>I think they should retire his jersey in the near future. Let that be clear.</strong></p><p></p><p><u>Regarding the myth that Favre gave us a shot at winning the game every time he took the field, and that's why he should have his jersey retired:</u></p><p></p><p>The contrary also applies here. Every time he took the field, specially in a playoff game, he gave the other team a legitimate shot at winning. And more often than not he delivered.</p><p></p><p>That’s no reason to retire someone’s jersey.</p><p></p><p>Regardless if he gave them some hypotetical shot at winning, fact is he only brought one Lombardi in 16 seasons.</p><p></p><p><u>And the myth that really grinds my gears, that his jersey should be retired because Favre brought the Packers back to winning after a dark period:</u></p><p></p><p>This is so insanely meaningless, and wrong quite frankly. It wasn’t Favre that build the new team. It wasn’t him that adquired the players, assembled the coaching staff. It wasn’t him that rebuilt Lambeau. It was Bob Harlan, Ron Wolf and Mike Holmgren.</p><p></p><p>And even regarding wins and losses, I can make a much better case to where the Packers were before Reggie White came on board. Because it wasn’t until he was signed that we reached the playoffs, and it wasn’t until after he retired that we stopped being a dominant team, even with Favre at the helm.</p><p></p><p> -------------------------</p><p></p><p>Favre should have his number retired, but not because of the state of the franchise prior to him, or that he could win any game at any time.</p><p></p><p>It’s because of what he did and represented to the Packers while he was with the team. He was <strong>THE</strong> franchise for almost 2 decades. Not many people can say that for any other franchise in sports, and, coupled with all his achievements, merits his jersey to be retired.</p><p></p><p>The only people that represented more to the Packers than Favre were Lombardi and Lambeau, and even that's debatable.</p><p></p><p>For so long, longer than anyone in almost any other sport, Favre was the Packers and the Packers were Favre.</p><p></p><p>And IMHO that's what matters most when having a number retired. Not quality of play, because Favre was nowhere near the best QB to play for the Packers. Not achievements, because, again, he only won 1 SB. But what he meant to the franchise. And it's undeniable that he ment a lot.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PackersRS, post: 301932, member: 1429"] If anyone frequents cheeseheadtv, I'm sorry for being repetitive, but I'll copy almost exactly what I said there in here, and I'm not gonna talk again about this subject, because it has been said too many times. [B] I think they should retire his jersey in the near future. Let that be clear.[/B] [U]Regarding the myth that Favre gave us a shot at winning the game every time he took the field, and that's why he should have his jersey retired:[/U] The contrary also applies here. Every time he took the field, specially in a playoff game, he gave the other team a legitimate shot at winning. And more often than not he delivered. That’s no reason to retire someone’s jersey. Regardless if he gave them some hypotetical shot at winning, fact is he only brought one Lombardi in 16 seasons. [U]And the myth that really grinds my gears, that his jersey should be retired because Favre brought the Packers back to winning after a dark period:[/U] This is so insanely meaningless, and wrong quite frankly. It wasn’t Favre that build the new team. It wasn’t him that adquired the players, assembled the coaching staff. It wasn’t him that rebuilt Lambeau. It was Bob Harlan, Ron Wolf and Mike Holmgren. And even regarding wins and losses, I can make a much better case to where the Packers were before Reggie White came on board. Because it wasn’t until he was signed that we reached the playoffs, and it wasn’t until after he retired that we stopped being a dominant team, even with Favre at the helm. ------------------------- Favre should have his number retired, but not because of the state of the franchise prior to him, or that he could win any game at any time. It’s because of what he did and represented to the Packers while he was with the team. He was [B]THE[/B] franchise for almost 2 decades. Not many people can say that for any other franchise in sports, and, coupled with all his achievements, merits his jersey to be retired. The only people that represented more to the Packers than Favre were Lombardi and Lambeau, and even that's debatable. For so long, longer than anyone in almost any other sport, Favre was the Packers and the Packers were Favre. And IMHO that's what matters most when having a number retired. Not quality of play, because Favre was nowhere near the best QB to play for the Packers. Not achievements, because, again, he only won 1 SB. But what he meant to the franchise. And it's undeniable that he ment a lot. [/QUOTE]
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