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<blockquote data-quote="Luca" data-source="post: 608984" data-attributes="member: 9032"><p>Here is what PFF had to say about five of our draft picks. Seems like they liked most of those guys. However some of the critique on Montgomery is pretty harsh.</p><p></p><p><strong>Damarious Randall, Arizona State</strong></p><p>>>> Top of the Crop</p><p></p><p>Randall looks and plays light but his quick feet and game speed set him apart. His over-eager, out-of-control style, however, needs some serious roping in. That’s a coachable issue, though, and one that’s much more appealing than dealing with a timid player at the position. While not the surest tackler, he’s certainly not afraid of contact and will stick his nose in at every chance.</p><p></p><p>He lands high on the list because he’s one of very few in the class with the range to seriously be seen as a single-high option, and though he’s relatively unreliable as a last-line run defender, covering as much ground as he can up top will always be coveted. Playing more than a quarter of his snaps down over a slot WR and, thanks to his quickness, performing well in those chances adds another plus to his résumé.</p><p></p><p>Signature Stat: Randall was one of six safeties in the class who saw at least 60 targets into their coverage in 2014. His 53.2 completion percentage allowed was lowest of that group.</p><p></p><p><strong>Quinten Rollins, Miami (OH)</strong> </p><p>>>> Top of the Crop</p><p></p><p>If there’s a player with massive upside, it’s Quinten Rollins. Rollins was a basketball player before coming to football this season and played like he had been a football star all his life. His tape shows a player who is extremely raw but incredibly physically gifted with fluid movement skills and fantastic footwork.</p><p></p><p>Rollins was thrown at 65 times and though he allowed 35 catches for 436 yards and two touchdowns, he also picked off eight passes and showed some impressive ball skills. Only three draft-eligible players earned a higher CFF coverage grade over the season and only two corners a higher overall grade. Given this was his first serious year of football, the sky is the limit for what his potential can be with a little more fundamental technique to his name.</p><p></p><p>Signature Stat: Rollins either picked off (eight) or broke up (eight) 16 passes this season, or 24.6% of the targets sent his way.</p><p></p><p><strong>Ty Montgomery, Stanford</strong></p><p>>>> Something to Work With</p><p></p><p>Ty Montgomery is a poor receiver. You don’t want him playing wide out for your team. His hands are poor, featuring some extremely ugly drops over the year. His routes are labored, and he doesn’t seem comfortable with what he is doing at all. So what is there to work with? I think he’s a running back, and a pretty good one, masquerading at receiver. The other bonus with Montgomery is he will be a very useful return man into the bargain.</p><p></p><p>I have seen him compared to Cordarrelle Patterson, and while I think that’s a pretty good fit, the difference between the two is body type. Patterson is 6-foot-2 and is built and runs like a receiver, so any backfield carries he is given will be occasional. Montgomery is 6-foot at best and 220 pounds. He is built like a runner and does his best work with the ball in his hands, even running between the tackles.</p><p></p><p>Only four receivers notched more missed tackles forced than Montgomery’s 17, and the lowest number of receptions amongst them had 45 more than the Stanford Cardinal. He may not be viable as a receiver, but hand him the ball as a running back and you might just have something.</p><p></p><p>Signature Stat: Averaged 12.4 yards per carry on wide receiver runs (end arounds etc), but a respectable 4.8 yards per carry on conventional running back carries.</p><p></p><p><strong>Jake Ryan, Michigan</strong></p><p>>>> Something to Work With</p><p></p><p>With one of the highest overall grades in this class, there’s a lot to like about Ryan, especially in run defense. He has the requisite size for the position and is probably one of the better players at stacking linemen at the second level, flashing good strength in doing so. That was evident early in his game against Indiana (1Q, 14:35), when he put the center on the ground. His 14.5% Run Stop Percentage didn’t compare to Paul Dawson’s ridiculous mark, but still ranked in the Top 5 at the position, both among draft-eligible players and overall.</p><p></p><p>There are still some concerns with Ryan that have him projected as more of a middle round player. For one, he wasn’t quite as good against the best competition Michigan faced, including negative grades against Notre Dame, Michigan State, and Ohio State. Agility could be a question against more athletic NFL players as he had difficulty breaking down in space at times (Ohio State 2Q 0:17), though his 12 missed tackles show that it wasn’t a huge problem. He also occasionally locked onto the RB which led to getting faked by counters and misdirection or crushed by a blockers that he didn’t see coming (Ohio State 1Q 7:01).</p><p></p><p>Signature Stat: Ryan had at least two defensive stops in every game last season and nine games of five or more stops.</p><p></p><p><strong>Christian Ringo, Louisiana Lafayette</strong></p><p>>>> Sleeper</p><p></p><p>A player out of a small school has to answer at least three questions if they are going to be seen as more than just a big fish in a small pond… first, can they dominate in their conference as any possible NFL prospect should? Second, do they perform well against Power 5 teams when they get the chance? And third, do they have a skill set that can translate to the NFL (even in a specialized role)? Christian Ringo checked all three boxes this past season. When he won, he did so by using his quickness, exploding off the ball especially when lining up at nose tackle. In the pros, however, he’ll likely have to come from the 3-tech spot since he weighs in around 275 pounds.</p><p></p><p>Ringo will not be a high draft pick and might even go undrafted, but he could quickly become a third-down, 300-snap specialist. What he could provide in those snaps is an effective interior speed rusher who can cause trouble on passing downs.</p><p></p><p>Signature Stat: Of all interior and edge defenders who rushed the passer over 150 times, no player in this draft was as an efficient as Ringo with a 15.8 PRP score.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Luca, post: 608984, member: 9032"] Here is what PFF had to say about five of our draft picks. Seems like they liked most of those guys. However some of the critique on Montgomery is pretty harsh. [B]Damarious Randall, Arizona State[/B] >>> Top of the Crop Randall looks and plays light but his quick feet and game speed set him apart. His over-eager, out-of-control style, however, needs some serious roping in. That’s a coachable issue, though, and one that’s much more appealing than dealing with a timid player at the position. While not the surest tackler, he’s certainly not afraid of contact and will stick his nose in at every chance. He lands high on the list because he’s one of very few in the class with the range to seriously be seen as a single-high option, and though he’s relatively unreliable as a last-line run defender, covering as much ground as he can up top will always be coveted. Playing more than a quarter of his snaps down over a slot WR and, thanks to his quickness, performing well in those chances adds another plus to his résumé. Signature Stat: Randall was one of six safeties in the class who saw at least 60 targets into their coverage in 2014. His 53.2 completion percentage allowed was lowest of that group. [B]Quinten Rollins, Miami (OH)[/B] >>> Top of the Crop If there’s a player with massive upside, it’s Quinten Rollins. Rollins was a basketball player before coming to football this season and played like he had been a football star all his life. His tape shows a player who is extremely raw but incredibly physically gifted with fluid movement skills and fantastic footwork. Rollins was thrown at 65 times and though he allowed 35 catches for 436 yards and two touchdowns, he also picked off eight passes and showed some impressive ball skills. Only three draft-eligible players earned a higher CFF coverage grade over the season and only two corners a higher overall grade. Given this was his first serious year of football, the sky is the limit for what his potential can be with a little more fundamental technique to his name. Signature Stat: Rollins either picked off (eight) or broke up (eight) 16 passes this season, or 24.6% of the targets sent his way. [B]Ty Montgomery, Stanford[/B] >>> Something to Work With Ty Montgomery is a poor receiver. You don’t want him playing wide out for your team. His hands are poor, featuring some extremely ugly drops over the year. His routes are labored, and he doesn’t seem comfortable with what he is doing at all. So what is there to work with? I think he’s a running back, and a pretty good one, masquerading at receiver. The other bonus with Montgomery is he will be a very useful return man into the bargain. I have seen him compared to Cordarrelle Patterson, and while I think that’s a pretty good fit, the difference between the two is body type. Patterson is 6-foot-2 and is built and runs like a receiver, so any backfield carries he is given will be occasional. Montgomery is 6-foot at best and 220 pounds. He is built like a runner and does his best work with the ball in his hands, even running between the tackles. Only four receivers notched more missed tackles forced than Montgomery’s 17, and the lowest number of receptions amongst them had 45 more than the Stanford Cardinal. He may not be viable as a receiver, but hand him the ball as a running back and you might just have something. Signature Stat: Averaged 12.4 yards per carry on wide receiver runs (end arounds etc), but a respectable 4.8 yards per carry on conventional running back carries. [B]Jake Ryan, Michigan[/B] >>> Something to Work With With one of the highest overall grades in this class, there’s a lot to like about Ryan, especially in run defense. He has the requisite size for the position and is probably one of the better players at stacking linemen at the second level, flashing good strength in doing so. That was evident early in his game against Indiana (1Q, 14:35), when he put the center on the ground. His 14.5% Run Stop Percentage didn’t compare to Paul Dawson’s ridiculous mark, but still ranked in the Top 5 at the position, both among draft-eligible players and overall. There are still some concerns with Ryan that have him projected as more of a middle round player. For one, he wasn’t quite as good against the best competition Michigan faced, including negative grades against Notre Dame, Michigan State, and Ohio State. Agility could be a question against more athletic NFL players as he had difficulty breaking down in space at times (Ohio State 2Q 0:17), though his 12 missed tackles show that it wasn’t a huge problem. He also occasionally locked onto the RB which led to getting faked by counters and misdirection or crushed by a blockers that he didn’t see coming (Ohio State 1Q 7:01). Signature Stat: Ryan had at least two defensive stops in every game last season and nine games of five or more stops. [B]Christian Ringo, Louisiana Lafayette[/B] >>> Sleeper A player out of a small school has to answer at least three questions if they are going to be seen as more than just a big fish in a small pond… first, can they dominate in their conference as any possible NFL prospect should? Second, do they perform well against Power 5 teams when they get the chance? And third, do they have a skill set that can translate to the NFL (even in a specialized role)? Christian Ringo checked all three boxes this past season. When he won, he did so by using his quickness, exploding off the ball especially when lining up at nose tackle. In the pros, however, he’ll likely have to come from the 3-tech spot since he weighs in around 275 pounds. Ringo will not be a high draft pick and might even go undrafted, but he could quickly become a third-down, 300-snap specialist. What he could provide in those snaps is an effective interior speed rusher who can cause trouble on passing downs. Signature Stat: Of all interior and edge defenders who rushed the passer over 150 times, no player in this draft was as an efficient as Ringo with a 15.8 PRP score. [/QUOTE]
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