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<blockquote data-quote="Oannes" data-source="post: 150040" data-attributes="member: 816"><p><strong>Re: Packers & Oannes</strong></p></blockquote><p>You claim to be big on objectivity... well objectively look at all the positives surrounding the Packers as they came into the game. Yes objectively will cause you to look at the negatives, but the "objectivity" you are using is causing you to completely downplay the positives the Packers had going on. You can't do that, not when those positives had resulted in a 3 game winning streak, and almost led us to winning the Bills game.[/quote]</p><p></p><p>I think if you read what I've said on this game you'd realize that I've covered nearly every single "positive" from that game. </p><p></p><p>I said Green Bay was playing for Favre. I made the comment that..."the motivational arrows were pointing in vastly different directions... Chicago's way down, and ours way up. I know Favre has played very well in Chicago throughout his career. I also said that we really wanted to show that we had come along since getting SHUT OUT at home and really wanted some revenge for that. So, I've pointed out tons of positives for OUR play. That isn't the issue. US isn't the issue...it's THEM. </p><p></p><p>I sat up an watched the first half of the Monday Nighter Chicago at Arizona last night. Grossman was putrid and the Bears were totally uninspired playing a team that was jacked out of their minds. Arizona hadn't been on MNF in years. They had a brand new stadium and the place was in a frenzy unlike anything I've ever seen from the ARIZONA Cardinals. What was the result of that 1st half? 20-0 Arizona. Did Arizona win that game...No. The Bears, IMO, were putting a lot more into winning that game that actually helped their cause, and would help keep them undefeated, yet they totally sucked in the first half because they were UNINSPIRED. An even less inspired team took the field against our boys who like you said were really cranked up. That is a recipe for exactly what took place on that field the last week of the season. You're surprised and or encouraged by that?</p><p></p><p>It is simple... The game meant the world to us and meant nothing to them. That adds up to 26-7 in my book. As I also have pointed out something that Z2C is trying to discredit by making some statement about Lovie that I can't find anyhwhere. That something is that the Bears did the EXACT same thing the previous year when they had nothing to play for. The Bears had dismantled the Vikes 28-3 earlier in the year, only to lose to them 34-10 the last week of the season when they had nothing to play for because they'd already clinched a first round bye and couldn't get the #1 seed by winning. That would be precedent in my book for exactly what I've said about the Packers game. </p><p></p><p>Besides, you know how badly the Pack wants to beat Minnesota. If you'd like I'll go out and find that article that said when asked who Packer players considered their biggest rivalry most of them said THE VIKINGS not THE BEARS. </p><p></p><p>Remember, at the time we played Minnesota the Bears game hadn't been announced as the flex scheduling game meaning our boys had no way of knowing it would be on national TV. So, the Viking game was Brett Favre's potential LAST GAME ON NATIONAL TV. We win that game, BARELY, by a count of 9-7. and YES it sure in the heck matters that a rookie D2 QB was under center. To read anything from our defensive performance against a guy like that is nothing short of ridiculous IMO.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Oannes, post: 150040, member: 816"] [b]Re: Packers & Oannes[/b] [/quote] You claim to be big on objectivity... well objectively look at all the positives surrounding the Packers as they came into the game. Yes objectively will cause you to look at the negatives, but the "objectivity" you are using is causing you to completely downplay the positives the Packers had going on. You can't do that, not when those positives had resulted in a 3 game winning streak, and almost led us to winning the Bills game.[/quote] I think if you read what I've said on this game you'd realize that I've covered nearly every single "positive" from that game. I said Green Bay was playing for Favre. I made the comment that..."the motivational arrows were pointing in vastly different directions... Chicago's way down, and ours way up. I know Favre has played very well in Chicago throughout his career. I also said that we really wanted to show that we had come along since getting SHUT OUT at home and really wanted some revenge for that. So, I've pointed out tons of positives for OUR play. That isn't the issue. US isn't the issue...it's THEM. I sat up an watched the first half of the Monday Nighter Chicago at Arizona last night. Grossman was putrid and the Bears were totally uninspired playing a team that was jacked out of their minds. Arizona hadn't been on MNF in years. They had a brand new stadium and the place was in a frenzy unlike anything I've ever seen from the ARIZONA Cardinals. What was the result of that 1st half? 20-0 Arizona. Did Arizona win that game...No. The Bears, IMO, were putting a lot more into winning that game that actually helped their cause, and would help keep them undefeated, yet they totally sucked in the first half because they were UNINSPIRED. An even less inspired team took the field against our boys who like you said were really cranked up. That is a recipe for exactly what took place on that field the last week of the season. You're surprised and or encouraged by that? It is simple... The game meant the world to us and meant nothing to them. That adds up to 26-7 in my book. As I also have pointed out something that Z2C is trying to discredit by making some statement about Lovie that I can't find anyhwhere. That something is that the Bears did the EXACT same thing the previous year when they had nothing to play for. The Bears had dismantled the Vikes 28-3 earlier in the year, only to lose to them 34-10 the last week of the season when they had nothing to play for because they'd already clinched a first round bye and couldn't get the #1 seed by winning. That would be precedent in my book for exactly what I've said about the Packers game. Besides, you know how badly the Pack wants to beat Minnesota. If you'd like I'll go out and find that article that said when asked who Packer players considered their biggest rivalry most of them said THE VIKINGS not THE BEARS. Remember, at the time we played Minnesota the Bears game hadn't been announced as the flex scheduling game meaning our boys had no way of knowing it would be on national TV. So, the Viking game was Brett Favre's potential LAST GAME ON NATIONAL TV. We win that game, BARELY, by a count of 9-7. and YES it sure in the heck matters that a rookie D2 QB was under center. To read anything from our defensive performance against a guy like that is nothing short of ridiculous IMO. [/QUOTE]
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