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<blockquote data-quote="tynimiller" data-source="post: 998156" data-attributes="member: 6578"><p>I’m utterly confused by some stuff being said here [USER=11742]@RicFlairoftheNFL[/USER] …chasing holes?</p><p></p><p>Our first pick is literally the opposite of that, while premium edge guys either stand up style or reduced down are awesome welcome - LVN arguably wasn’t chasing a single hole at all, he was a premium position player, crazy measurables and premium production plus is incredibly young…not getting the criticism here at all.</p><p></p><p>Also…Musgrave, you bring up his injury like he was still down this whole pre draft process??? That confuses me to no end. The young man played in the Senior Bowl and EXCELLED - getting clocked even at 20.05 MPH in live gameplay…and he showed out at both combine and pro day. He ran a three cone better than many wideouts and his ten split is insane for a guy his size.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]19183[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>I’m further confused by the Kraft narrative saying drafting another TE showed we may be cleaning house in the TE room….we essentially barely had a room going into the draft with just Josiah Deguara and Tyler Davis holding contracts?? For a team that usually has four on their 53 and gameday rosters, few on PS they aren’t cleaning the room it is simply empty my friend.</p><p></p><p>Your Mims comment on the Reed note confuses me greatly…presently in GB we have two WRs with more than like five snaps of NFL experience (Watson and Doubs)…adding one or two WRs would be any logical confusion from anyone predicting the draft for the Packers.</p><p></p><p>———————</p><p></p><p>My overall thoughts of the draft:</p><p></p><p>Building To The Future: this is still the main reason for the draft, and to do this you have to be able to identify high character, high ceiling and highly motivated prospects that have the projection to not have tapped their whole football potential. In that respect I think this class screams this, which is rare in a grouping with guys that all delivered and produced in their time for the most part at their respective universities or colleges. This view of the draft I give it a A.</p><p></p><p>Filling Holes: Never allow this to force picks but also never ignore it either. From a holes perspective I’d give it a B- as it did a lot for the skill positions vacancies throughout rooms now and in the future…but a for sure Safety starter (thought Anthony Johnson legit chance IMO and had zero business being there in 7th) plus OL was ignored and while MLF and Gute both have confirmed they believe it is the deepest and best group they’ve had in house lately, I see weakness along center and RG for sure.</p><p></p><p>Subjective Opinion of Propsects to Draft Position: This is purely a subjective thing but I give gut a A here…but there are some massive swings both ways that I feel cancel eachother keeping it from a B. While many felt Reed was a reach, from a talent perspective I STRONGLY disagree, but it was a reach for GB type definitely. However, I see Clifford as a reach in the fourth but Anthony Johnson in the seventh is just ludacris good the other way. With those offsetting some, Kraft was surprising to be there in third with the run on TEs, Brooks was a guy I saw gone by the fourth and Valentine IMO was a early day 3 type…so many prospects found in the draft at IMO spots that shocked me.</p><p></p><p>Lots of youth infused into the draft for sure at skill positions and with run defense in mind especially.</p><p></p><p>Bonus - got one of the best kickers too in Anders.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tynimiller, post: 998156, member: 6578"] I’m utterly confused by some stuff being said here [USER=11742]@RicFlairoftheNFL[/USER] …chasing holes? Our first pick is literally the opposite of that, while premium edge guys either stand up style or reduced down are awesome welcome - LVN arguably wasn’t chasing a single hole at all, he was a premium position player, crazy measurables and premium production plus is incredibly young…not getting the criticism here at all. Also…Musgrave, you bring up his injury like he was still down this whole pre draft process??? That confuses me to no end. The young man played in the Senior Bowl and EXCELLED - getting clocked even at 20.05 MPH in live gameplay…and he showed out at both combine and pro day. He ran a three cone better than many wideouts and his ten split is insane for a guy his size. [ATTACH type="full" width="503px" alt="1682867606680.png"]19183[/ATTACH] I’m further confused by the Kraft narrative saying drafting another TE showed we may be cleaning house in the TE room….we essentially barely had a room going into the draft with just Josiah Deguara and Tyler Davis holding contracts?? For a team that usually has four on their 53 and gameday rosters, few on PS they aren’t cleaning the room it is simply empty my friend. Your Mims comment on the Reed note confuses me greatly…presently in GB we have two WRs with more than like five snaps of NFL experience (Watson and Doubs)…adding one or two WRs would be any logical confusion from anyone predicting the draft for the Packers. ——————— My overall thoughts of the draft: Building To The Future: this is still the main reason for the draft, and to do this you have to be able to identify high character, high ceiling and highly motivated prospects that have the projection to not have tapped their whole football potential. In that respect I think this class screams this, which is rare in a grouping with guys that all delivered and produced in their time for the most part at their respective universities or colleges. This view of the draft I give it a A. Filling Holes: Never allow this to force picks but also never ignore it either. From a holes perspective I’d give it a B- as it did a lot for the skill positions vacancies throughout rooms now and in the future…but a for sure Safety starter (thought Anthony Johnson legit chance IMO and had zero business being there in 7th) plus OL was ignored and while MLF and Gute both have confirmed they believe it is the deepest and best group they’ve had in house lately, I see weakness along center and RG for sure. Subjective Opinion of Propsects to Draft Position: This is purely a subjective thing but I give gut a A here…but there are some massive swings both ways that I feel cancel eachother keeping it from a B. While many felt Reed was a reach, from a talent perspective I STRONGLY disagree, but it was a reach for GB type definitely. However, I see Clifford as a reach in the fourth but Anthony Johnson in the seventh is just ludacris good the other way. With those offsetting some, Kraft was surprising to be there in third with the run on TEs, Brooks was a guy I saw gone by the fourth and Valentine IMO was a early day 3 type…so many prospects found in the draft at IMO spots that shocked me. Lots of youth infused into the draft for sure at skill positions and with run defense in mind especially. Bonus - got one of the best kickers too in Anders. [/QUOTE]
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