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<blockquote data-quote="porky88" data-source="post: 81673" data-attributes="member: 489"><p>I never called the defense sub par. I think they overachieved and might of been worse than what the numbers indicate but they're as every bit to blame as last year as anyone else. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Again man I didn't blame Favre for the lost. I think people need to stop making excuses for a HOF QB and admit he wasn't on his game last year. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's certainly apart of it as is Favre's poor decision making.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Never said that... You'll need to read my posts to understand my arguement. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Never completely blamed Favre. I continue to say he deserves some blame as do the players around him and the coaching was awful as well. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree, Sherman is too blame as well. As Head Coach it's his full responsibility to coach Favre and calm him down. It's his responsibility along with the other coaches to get the players around Favre ready. Coaching was awful last year as was Favre's decision making, as was the Green Bay Packers.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Never said that. Would you please go back and re read my posts and do it slowly. I think you more so skimmed them or read half of it and didn't get where I was going.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I never said Favre is a has been either. I believe currently Manning and Brady are the two best QB's in the game. They are in their prime. Favre is not. You can't possibly think Favre at 37 is as good as Favre at let's say 28. He's not and it's only natural really.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I never really made a list of QB's. I said my top 2 above. I'd have to think Favre would be in my top 10 which is very impressive for a 37 year old QB. Physically I did say he's one of the 7 best in the game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We agree <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/biggrin.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Rob I think you need to go back and read every word in my post. If you'd like to respond by pm, that is fine. The things you seemed to think I thought I don't and didn't post. I think if TA thought the same as you about my opinions, then he needs to go back and re read the post. I know they're long but when I say something, I try to make it mean something.</p><p></p><p>To sum it up on what I've said in this thread. Favre is not as good as he used to be. He can no longer make a average WR great like he did with Bill Schroeder. He needs to be coached better in his game management skills and overall decision making. Favre is too blame for the INT's as much as the WR's, O-line, coaching, etc.. Seems like people fade away and blame it on someone else. Football is a team oriented sport. Favre is still physically one of the best in the game. Mentally I question Favre from the things he's been saying.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="porky88, post: 81673, member: 489"] I never called the defense sub par. I think they overachieved and might of been worse than what the numbers indicate but they're as every bit to blame as last year as anyone else. Again man I didn't blame Favre for the lost. I think people need to stop making excuses for a HOF QB and admit he wasn't on his game last year. That's certainly apart of it as is Favre's poor decision making. Never said that... You'll need to read my posts to understand my arguement. Never completely blamed Favre. I continue to say he deserves some blame as do the players around him and the coaching was awful as well. I agree, Sherman is too blame as well. As Head Coach it's his full responsibility to coach Favre and calm him down. It's his responsibility along with the other coaches to get the players around Favre ready. Coaching was awful last year as was Favre's decision making, as was the Green Bay Packers. Never said that. Would you please go back and re read my posts and do it slowly. I think you more so skimmed them or read half of it and didn't get where I was going. I never said Favre is a has been either. I believe currently Manning and Brady are the two best QB's in the game. They are in their prime. Favre is not. You can't possibly think Favre at 37 is as good as Favre at let's say 28. He's not and it's only natural really. I never really made a list of QB's. I said my top 2 above. I'd have to think Favre would be in my top 10 which is very impressive for a 37 year old QB. Physically I did say he's one of the 7 best in the game. We agree :D Rob I think you need to go back and read every word in my post. If you'd like to respond by pm, that is fine. The things you seemed to think I thought I don't and didn't post. I think if TA thought the same as you about my opinions, then he needs to go back and re read the post. I know they're long but when I say something, I try to make it mean something. To sum it up on what I've said in this thread. Favre is not as good as he used to be. He can no longer make a average WR great like he did with Bill Schroeder. He needs to be coached better in his game management skills and overall decision making. Favre is too blame for the INT's as much as the WR's, O-line, coaching, etc.. Seems like people fade away and blame it on someone else. Football is a team oriented sport. Favre is still physically one of the best in the game. Mentally I question Favre from the things he's been saying. [/QUOTE]
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