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<blockquote data-quote="Raptorman" data-source="post: 268971" data-attributes="member: 655"><p>I never said they were the champions of pro football. I said they were NFL Champions. But since you bring it up. Since there were two leagues from 1960 to 1969, and since they only played each other from 1966-69 how can anyone claim to be World Champions of PRO FOOTBALL from 1960-1965? Oh, wait, they, the AFL, really were not qualified to lay any claims because the NFL was the only "true" football league at the time. Do I have that right? I would not want to be accused of spinning anything. So only the teams that played in the NFL at the time, 1960-1965, can claim to be "true" football World Champions. I have that correct? Right?</p><p> </p><p>I don't dispute the fact that Green Bay has 12 NFL titles, Actually they have 12 NFL titles and 2 World Championship titles for a total of 14. But that's my view. Cling to your 12. But I also don't dismiss the teams of the AFL and the titles those teams won from 1960-1969 like you do. Some good things have come from the AFL, things like the WC offense, the two point conversion, players names on the backs of jerseys, coaches like Chuck Noll, John Madden, **** Vermeil and Bill Walsh. It's unfortunate that people who did not live through that time period are so fast to dismiss what went on and the history of the the two leagues during the 1960's. By claiming 12 World Championships the Packers and their fans do that on a regular basis. But I guess that would be more spinning. Right?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raptorman, post: 268971, member: 655"] I never said they were the champions of pro football. I said they were NFL Champions. But since you bring it up. Since there were two leagues from 1960 to 1969, and since they only played each other from 1966-69 how can anyone claim to be World Champions of PRO FOOTBALL from 1960-1965? Oh, wait, they, the AFL, really were not qualified to lay any claims because the NFL was the only "true" football league at the time. Do I have that right? I would not want to be accused of spinning anything. So only the teams that played in the NFL at the time, 1960-1965, can claim to be "true" football World Champions. I have that correct? Right? I don't dispute the fact that Green Bay has 12 NFL titles, Actually they have 12 NFL titles and 2 World Championship titles for a total of 14. But that's my view. Cling to your 12. But I also don't dismiss the teams of the AFL and the titles those teams won from 1960-1969 like you do. Some good things have come from the AFL, things like the WC offense, the two point conversion, players names on the backs of jerseys, coaches like Chuck Noll, John Madden, **** Vermeil and Bill Walsh. It's unfortunate that people who did not live through that time period are so fast to dismiss what went on and the history of the the two leagues during the 1960's. By claiming 12 World Championships the Packers and their fans do that on a regular basis. But I guess that would be more spinning. Right? [/QUOTE]
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