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<blockquote data-quote="Raptorman" data-source="post: 268955" data-attributes="member: 655"><p>No, that is not what you said. Here let me quote you.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>That states that 12 times the Packers won their last game and have 12 Championships for it. Which is not true. In 1930, they lost their second to last game and tied the last game. In 1931 they lost their last game. Now when I point that out you switch up to the "Playoff" line. So now it only counts if there was a playoff game. So which is it? Ah yes, because it's the Packers they get the exception to the rule. Fact is, according to you, the Packers are then the only team in NFL history to lose their last game and still be Champions. A couple of teams have tied the last game and done it, the Staleys, the Akron pros, Providence steam rollers and of course the Packers. </p><p> It was 11-12 teams. Depending on which teams came in and which teams folded. And they didn't have to win their last game to be Champs! </p><p> </p><p>Wrong. The AFL and NFL were leagues unto themselves until 1970. They had separate rules, separate commissioners, separate TV contracts. They did not play regular season games against each other. The AFL had the 2 point conversion, the NFL did not. They even had different size balls. That is why to this day any player that played only in the AFL is not eligible for the HOF. Tell me, at what point did the AFL become a league only in name? Had to be 1966 according to you. So the merger in 1970 when they agreed on the rule changes, only having one commissioner, the realignment, merging of TV contracts, the teams that went from the NFL to the AFC, playing regular season games between the AFC/NFC, that was all just what? Semantics? </p><p> </p><p> And then all of a sudden in 1966(the AFL was only 7 years old) they were magically transported to the level of competitive play of the NFL so the Super Bowl, sorry, the "World Championship game" could be played. </p><p> </p><p> And of course when confronted with history you cannot refute, go with the name calling and ****** overtures to get me to back down. And if it's a lie, prove it to me. Show me a headline from a paper that says the Ice bowl was not he NFL Championship game. Show me a link that says there was no NFL Championship games from 1966-1969. Show me a picture of the first 4 Super bowl trophies that say "NFL Championship" on them. You can't. The First 4 say "AFL-NFL World Championship game". Show me how the leagues merged in 1966 instead of 1970. But it's all just a big lie according to you. </p><p> </p><p>I'm not trying to convince you to change your mind. Because I know that your mind is to closed to do it. You don't want to admit the true history of the NFL because then you would have to admit that I am right. And lord pray tell, you have been told all your life that the Vikings have never won anything so it has to be true. After all, your a Packer fan and hence you know NFL history better than anyone else. </p><p> </p><p>All I am doing is putting out the "true" history of the NFL. You chose to accept the "modified" history of the NFL. But for gods' sake, don't be a hypocrite about it. Either you have to win the last game to be a Champion or not, you don't get to qualify that with "in the playoff system". Sucks don't it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raptorman, post: 268955, member: 655"] No, that is not what you said. Here let me quote you. That states that 12 times the Packers won their last game and have 12 Championships for it. Which is not true. In 1930, they lost their second to last game and tied the last game. In 1931 they lost their last game. Now when I point that out you switch up to the "Playoff" line. So now it only counts if there was a playoff game. So which is it? Ah yes, because it's the Packers they get the exception to the rule. Fact is, according to you, the Packers are then the only team in NFL history to lose their last game and still be Champions. A couple of teams have tied the last game and done it, the Staleys, the Akron pros, Providence steam rollers and of course the Packers. It was 11-12 teams. Depending on which teams came in and which teams folded. And they didn't have to win their last game to be Champs! Wrong. The AFL and NFL were leagues unto themselves until 1970. They had separate rules, separate commissioners, separate TV contracts. They did not play regular season games against each other. The AFL had the 2 point conversion, the NFL did not. They even had different size balls. That is why to this day any player that played only in the AFL is not eligible for the HOF. Tell me, at what point did the AFL become a league only in name? Had to be 1966 according to you. So the merger in 1970 when they agreed on the rule changes, only having one commissioner, the realignment, merging of TV contracts, the teams that went from the NFL to the AFC, playing regular season games between the AFC/NFC, that was all just what? Semantics? And then all of a sudden in 1966(the AFL was only 7 years old) they were magically transported to the level of competitive play of the NFL so the Super Bowl, sorry, the "World Championship game" could be played. And of course when confronted with history you cannot refute, go with the name calling and ****** overtures to get me to back down. And if it's a lie, prove it to me. Show me a headline from a paper that says the Ice bowl was not he NFL Championship game. Show me a link that says there was no NFL Championship games from 1966-1969. Show me a picture of the first 4 Super bowl trophies that say "NFL Championship" on them. You can't. The First 4 say "AFL-NFL World Championship game". Show me how the leagues merged in 1966 instead of 1970. But it's all just a big lie according to you. I'm not trying to convince you to change your mind. Because I know that your mind is to closed to do it. You don't want to admit the true history of the NFL because then you would have to admit that I am right. And lord pray tell, you have been told all your life that the Vikings have never won anything so it has to be true. After all, your a Packer fan and hence you know NFL history better than anyone else. All I am doing is putting out the "true" history of the NFL. You chose to accept the "modified" history of the NFL. But for gods' sake, don't be a hypocrite about it. Either you have to win the last game to be a Champion or not, you don't get to qualify that with "in the playoff system". Sucks don't it. [/QUOTE]
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