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<blockquote data-quote="PWT36" data-source="post: 29927" data-attributes="member: 170"><p>I can't believe any knowledgeable Packer fan who has been watching Packer football for any period of time, would not know that Ryan longwell is the best Fg kicker in packer history. And would think he would not attempt a Fg in "slight"???? wind conditions at lambeau Field against the Steelers. Of coarse, that is inaccurate statement of the wind conditions at field level at lambeau Field at the time in question. If it would have been slight wind conditions at the time, Coach Sherman would not have signaled to Longwell if he could make a 48 yard FG, he would have just sent in the FG team. Because of the lower of profile of the Top part of stadium on south end compared with the rest of the stadium since stadium renovation, IT has caused more severe swirling winds at lambeau that before the renovation. Here is a story appearing in the Press-Gazette today (WED) about the problems of kicking Field goals with an inexperience holder Sander and Longwell------ "No easy fix for holding problem"</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p>By Rob Demovsky</p><p>PackersNews.com </p><p></p><p>During all the hours Bryan Barker and B.J. Sander spent together last season, the two punters almost never talked about holding.</p><p></p><p>Given all Sander had to learn from Barker about punting, maybe there wasn’t time. The way Sander has struggled this season as a holder, the coaching staff probably should have asked Barker to impart some of his holding wisdom.</p><p></p><p>As a punter, Sander rebounded from his disastrous rookie season and has become serviceable. His net punting average is a respectable 38.1 yards, nearly five yards better than Barker was last season.</p><p></p><p>As a holder, Sander is no Barker.</p><p></p><p>Sander mishandled a snap in Sunday’s 33-25 win at Atlanta. He bobbled what was a slightly high snap from Rob Davis and failed to get the ball down in time for Ryan Longwell to attempt a 51-yard field goal in the third quarter. Sander did bounce back and help Longwell convert kicks of 53 and 51 yards in the second half, but kicking problems probably have cost the Packers two games this season. </p><p></p><p>The first sign of trouble between Longwell and Sander came in Week 1 at Detroit, when Sander dropped a snap and Longwell never made an attempt on what would have been a chip-shot field goal. There was a missed extra point and field goal in a one-point loss to Tampa Bay and two missed field goals in a three-point loss at Minnesota. The cold-weather games, where kicking can be a crap shoot, haven’t even begun.</p><p></p><p>Longwell has had the fortune of working with some of the best holders in the business. His last two were Doug Pederson and Barker, who took over in Week 5 last season after Pederson was injured.</p><p></p><p>According to Barker, holding takes natural ability.</p><p></p><p>“It’s not something that you generally train for and just become the holder,â€</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PWT36, post: 29927, member: 170"] I can't believe any knowledgeable Packer fan who has been watching Packer football for any period of time, would not know that Ryan longwell is the best Fg kicker in packer history. And would think he would not attempt a Fg in "slight"???? wind conditions at lambeau Field against the Steelers. Of coarse, that is inaccurate statement of the wind conditions at field level at lambeau Field at the time in question. If it would have been slight wind conditions at the time, Coach Sherman would not have signaled to Longwell if he could make a 48 yard FG, he would have just sent in the FG team. Because of the lower of profile of the Top part of stadium on south end compared with the rest of the stadium since stadium renovation, IT has caused more severe swirling winds at lambeau that before the renovation. Here is a story appearing in the Press-Gazette today (WED) about the problems of kicking Field goals with an inexperience holder Sander and Longwell------ "No easy fix for holding problem" By Rob Demovsky PackersNews.com During all the hours Bryan Barker and B.J. Sander spent together last season, the two punters almost never talked about holding. Given all Sander had to learn from Barker about punting, maybe there wasn’t time. The way Sander has struggled this season as a holder, the coaching staff probably should have asked Barker to impart some of his holding wisdom. As a punter, Sander rebounded from his disastrous rookie season and has become serviceable. His net punting average is a respectable 38.1 yards, nearly five yards better than Barker was last season. As a holder, Sander is no Barker. Sander mishandled a snap in Sunday’s 33-25 win at Atlanta. He bobbled what was a slightly high snap from Rob Davis and failed to get the ball down in time for Ryan Longwell to attempt a 51-yard field goal in the third quarter. Sander did bounce back and help Longwell convert kicks of 53 and 51 yards in the second half, but kicking problems probably have cost the Packers two games this season. The first sign of trouble between Longwell and Sander came in Week 1 at Detroit, when Sander dropped a snap and Longwell never made an attempt on what would have been a chip-shot field goal. There was a missed extra point and field goal in a one-point loss to Tampa Bay and two missed field goals in a three-point loss at Minnesota. The cold-weather games, where kicking can be a crap shoot, haven’t even begun. Longwell has had the fortune of working with some of the best holders in the business. His last two were Doug Pederson and Barker, who took over in Week 5 last season after Pederson was injured. According to Barker, holding takes natural ability. “It’s not something that you generally train for and just become the holder,†[/QUOTE]
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