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<blockquote data-quote="PackAttack12" data-source="post: 858185" data-attributes="member: 11933"><p>If it was such an obvious list, it would have taken you 2 minutes. After some of the lengthy posts you have made today, I don’t want to hear about oh I’m at work.</p><p></p><p>I was actually going to concede these names, even though if I really wanted to get technical I could debate a couple of names due to system, fit, etc. But I’ll concede these, based strictly on your premise that they had better seasons statistically:</p><p></p><p>Mahomes</p><p>Jackson</p><p>Brees</p><p>Wilson</p><p>Wentz</p><p>Jimmy G</p><p>Watson</p><p></p><p>This is where you make me laugh though. Dak? You mean the same Dak whose team was favored in 15 of the 16 games they played and finished a whopping 8-8? The same Dak who routinely throughout the season did jack **** in the first half of games, only to pile up garbage yards in the second half and fourth quarters of games? The same Dak that has zero game winning drives this year? There’s not a chance in hell that Dak wins 13 games with this Packers team. He’s been booty this year when games were on the line. If you can’t acknowledge that, go back and watch some tape.</p><p></p><p>In what universe did Brady have a better year than Rodgers? You mean the same Brady that couldn’t win a single ball game this year when his defense couldn’t hold teams below 17 points? The same Brady who threw critical interceptions in all four of his losses? Before you mention his weapons, he’s throwing to Edelman and James White. Edelman is a super bowl MVP, and James White holds the playoff record for most receptions in a single game. Sony Michel was a monster in the playoffs last year and is a good back. Harry is a 1st round pick at wide receiver. Dorsett is no scrub. Yes, no Gronk, but Brady pulled off the greatest comeback ever in 2016 with no Gronk, and throwing most of his balls to two guys that are on his team right now. Historically, in years past, that would be enough for Brady to make his offenses look good. Yet he couldn’t win 13 games in a system in which he has played in and perfected for YEARS. With the best defense statistically in football. You really think he would have won 13 games with the Packers in a system he has never ran before? At age 42? Come on man.</p><p></p><p>I’d be more than happy to tear you to shreds on Ryan effin Tannehill and Kirk Cousins, but I’m getting a little bored.</p><p></p><p>Even with that, I’ll grant you 9. And that’s extremely generous, given that I’ve liked a lot of your content in the past. But you’re off your meds with this one.</p><p></p><p>There’s way more to being a quarterback of a winning team than just putting up gaudy stats. Rodgers has said multiple times this year that this is a different team. Yes, he’s relying more on the defense. Yes, he’s relying more on Aaron Jones. But again, as great as Jones has been, he’s played 61% of the snaps, and the defense, while really good, is 9th in points allowed. Let’s not act like they are the 2000 ravens or the 2002 Bucs.</p><p></p><p>Rodgers is making all of the correct checks, audibles, etc at the line of scrimmage. His processing of the information to get from a bad play to a good play or from a good play to a great play is something that is being ignored here. He’s had a few game winning drives. He’s made plays in crunch time when they MATTER. There’s been a couple of games this year in which he’s ran the clock out by managing the situation, and getting timely first downs when needed. Those are things that guys like Dak, Cousins, Tannehill cannot do consistently enough to win 13 games with the roster that Rodgers is doing it with.</p><p></p><p>The defense has been really good. Aaron Jones has been really good. And while Aaron Rodgers by his standards has been average in terms of stats, he’s brought home a lot of wins with clutch play when it counts. He doesn’t deserve near the percentage of credit he’s gotten in the past, but he deserves a significant portion.</p><p></p><p>Brady has won so many games over the years and has had so many modest seasons in the past because he isn’t worried about statistics. He’s worried about winning football games. Look at Brady in 2013 for instance. His numbers aren’t much different than Rodgers’ this year at all. </p><p></p><p>I’m shocked that you think winning 13 games as a quarterback in the NFL is that easy. Lol.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PackAttack12, post: 858185, member: 11933"] If it was such an obvious list, it would have taken you 2 minutes. After some of the lengthy posts you have made today, I don’t want to hear about oh I’m at work. I was actually going to concede these names, even though if I really wanted to get technical I could debate a couple of names due to system, fit, etc. But I’ll concede these, based strictly on your premise that they had better seasons statistically: Mahomes Jackson Brees Wilson Wentz Jimmy G Watson This is where you make me laugh though. Dak? You mean the same Dak whose team was favored in 15 of the 16 games they played and finished a whopping 8-8? The same Dak who routinely throughout the season did jack **** in the first half of games, only to pile up garbage yards in the second half and fourth quarters of games? The same Dak that has zero game winning drives this year? There’s not a chance in hell that Dak wins 13 games with this Packers team. He’s been booty this year when games were on the line. If you can’t acknowledge that, go back and watch some tape. In what universe did Brady have a better year than Rodgers? You mean the same Brady that couldn’t win a single ball game this year when his defense couldn’t hold teams below 17 points? The same Brady who threw critical interceptions in all four of his losses? Before you mention his weapons, he’s throwing to Edelman and James White. Edelman is a super bowl MVP, and James White holds the playoff record for most receptions in a single game. Sony Michel was a monster in the playoffs last year and is a good back. Harry is a 1st round pick at wide receiver. Dorsett is no scrub. Yes, no Gronk, but Brady pulled off the greatest comeback ever in 2016 with no Gronk, and throwing most of his balls to two guys that are on his team right now. Historically, in years past, that would be enough for Brady to make his offenses look good. Yet he couldn’t win 13 games in a system in which he has played in and perfected for YEARS. With the best defense statistically in football. You really think he would have won 13 games with the Packers in a system he has never ran before? At age 42? Come on man. I’d be more than happy to tear you to shreds on Ryan effin Tannehill and Kirk Cousins, but I’m getting a little bored. Even with that, I’ll grant you 9. And that’s extremely generous, given that I’ve liked a lot of your content in the past. But you’re off your meds with this one. There’s way more to being a quarterback of a winning team than just putting up gaudy stats. Rodgers has said multiple times this year that this is a different team. Yes, he’s relying more on the defense. Yes, he’s relying more on Aaron Jones. But again, as great as Jones has been, he’s played 61% of the snaps, and the defense, while really good, is 9th in points allowed. Let’s not act like they are the 2000 ravens or the 2002 Bucs. Rodgers is making all of the correct checks, audibles, etc at the line of scrimmage. His processing of the information to get from a bad play to a good play or from a good play to a great play is something that is being ignored here. He’s had a few game winning drives. He’s made plays in crunch time when they MATTER. There’s been a couple of games this year in which he’s ran the clock out by managing the situation, and getting timely first downs when needed. Those are things that guys like Dak, Cousins, Tannehill cannot do consistently enough to win 13 games with the roster that Rodgers is doing it with. The defense has been really good. Aaron Jones has been really good. And while Aaron Rodgers by his standards has been average in terms of stats, he’s brought home a lot of wins with clutch play when it counts. He doesn’t deserve near the percentage of credit he’s gotten in the past, but he deserves a significant portion. Brady has won so many games over the years and has had so many modest seasons in the past because he isn’t worried about statistics. He’s worried about winning football games. Look at Brady in 2013 for instance. His numbers aren’t much different than Rodgers’ this year at all. I’m shocked that you think winning 13 games as a quarterback in the NFL is that easy. Lol. [/QUOTE]
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