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Harlan Regrets Giving GM Job to Sherman
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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 452363" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Regarding Jones from everything I heard and read at the time, his health was an excuse: There was a mini-mutiny among the front office staff - Jones was apparently the opposite of the affable Harlan. But as I said that was quickly remedied. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">As excited as I was when Harlan split the two jobs with his hiring of Wolf, I was disappointed with the re-merging of the jobs with the promotion of Sherman. So I was against it from the beginning. Then almost immediately we saw Sherman blunder in free agency with the signing of DE Joe Johnson, a player on the downside of his career for a $36M contract. While his draft blunders didn't become apparent right away, his mishandling of the cap certainly did. So IMO the signs Sherman was in way over his head - he had never trained for the GM role - were apparent very early. And not only that but an important reason to split the jobs is not to have the GM take the short-term view of a HC because that can have long-lasting negative effects and that's precisely what we saw in Sherman as GM. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">I think what happened was Harlan REALLY liked Sherman. And for good reason: Sherman had a great appreciation of the Packers tradition, a work ethic second to none, and he's a very good person (as far as I can tell). I think Harlan let his personal feelings get in the way of the business sense that led him to changing the structure of the organization in the first place. Even when he hired Thompson he did so on the condition that Thompson would have to work with Sherman - Ted did not have the option of firing Sherman before the 2005 season. In hindsight I'm glad Sherman was such an *** to Thompson that Harlan saw the wisdom of Sherman's firing after the 2005 season. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">BTW, IMO the argument/excuse that it was "the fashion" is one of the worst that could be advanced. To me it's analogous to the child's excuse that 'everyone else is doing it'. </span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">But it all worked out: The structure of the organization is again corrected. The GM's decade plus of training for the job is on display. He has complete control of football operations and the HC can concentrate solely on those duties. (Except that this is the "deadest" time in the season, I wouldn't spend this much time on it.) </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 452363, member: 4300"] [FONT=Tahoma]Regarding Jones from everything I heard and read at the time, his health was an excuse: There was a mini-mutiny among the front office staff - Jones was apparently the opposite of the affable Harlan. But as I said that was quickly remedied. [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]As excited as I was when Harlan split the two jobs with his hiring of Wolf, I was disappointed with the re-merging of the jobs with the promotion of Sherman. So I was against it from the beginning. Then almost immediately we saw Sherman blunder in free agency with the signing of DE Joe Johnson, a player on the downside of his career for a $36M contract. While his draft blunders didn't become apparent right away, his mishandling of the cap certainly did. So IMO the signs Sherman was in way over his head - he had never trained for the GM role - were apparent very early. And not only that but an important reason to split the jobs is not to have the GM take the short-term view of a HC because that can have long-lasting negative effects and that's precisely what we saw in Sherman as GM. [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]I think what happened was Harlan REALLY liked Sherman. And for good reason: Sherman had a great appreciation of the Packers tradition, a work ethic second to none, and he's a very good person (as far as I can tell). I think Harlan let his personal feelings get in the way of the business sense that led him to changing the structure of the organization in the first place. Even when he hired Thompson he did so on the condition that Thompson would have to work with Sherman - Ted did not have the option of firing Sherman before the 2005 season. In hindsight I'm glad Sherman was such an *** to Thompson that Harlan saw the wisdom of Sherman's firing after the 2005 season. [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]BTW, IMO the argument/excuse that it was "the fashion" is one of the worst that could be advanced. To me it's analogous to the child's excuse that 'everyone else is doing it'. [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]But it all worked out: The structure of the organization is again corrected. The GM's decade plus of training for the job is on display. He has complete control of football operations and the HC can concentrate solely on those duties. (Except that this is the "deadest" time in the season, I wouldn't spend this much time on it.) [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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