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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 619137"><p>Since you're so self-assured and snarky on this subject, I'm compelled to first point out where you are <em><strong>factually incorrect</strong></em>.</p><p></p><p>You tried to double-count the second quarter non-EP play. I know this because I have NFL Replay and just reviewed every Packer snap in the second quarter. The ESPN box score is correct.</p><p></p><p>So it comes down to 2 plays...the EP drop and the deep sideline play at 2:17 of the second quarter.</p><p></p><p>I concede the EP was a flat out drop. After reviewing this play several times in slow mo, contrary to the announcer call the LB did not tip that ball. One drop.</p><p></p><p>As for the deep sideline play, White was in full throttle, had a step on his man, the safety was closing, the ball was thrown to the back shoulder on a low trajectory. Tolzien was a half-beat late getting the throw off, and had to put some mustard on it to the outside to get it there in front of the safety. A receiver looking for that ball inside in full stride, then having brake and reach back for a mistimed throw coming in with some speed is a difficult catch. Drop? Maybe, maybe not. My rule of thumb is that if a guy makes a catch, and we say "great catch" as we would have in this case had he caught it, I would not charge a drop if he happens not to make the catch as in this case, especially given that Tolzien was equally at fault. In the end, I say "no drop".</p><p></p><p>As for your question: "Happier?" As you may have noted, I was not that happy with White's performance to begin with. Knowing you were factually incorrect and excessively harsh in your scoring doesn't make me any happier. I'd like to see White make a difficult downfield catch...that has not happened in 3 years.</p><p></p><p>Now I see that right after you posted 2.5 drops you turned right around and agreed with the Captain, saying what I said here, that it wasn't. That's interesting. Trying to pull something on me, I think?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 619137"] Since you're so self-assured and snarky on this subject, I'm compelled to first point out where you are [I][B]factually incorrect[/B][/I]. You tried to double-count the second quarter non-EP play. I know this because I have NFL Replay and just reviewed every Packer snap in the second quarter. The ESPN box score is correct. So it comes down to 2 plays...the EP drop and the deep sideline play at 2:17 of the second quarter. I concede the EP was a flat out drop. After reviewing this play several times in slow mo, contrary to the announcer call the LB did not tip that ball. One drop. As for the deep sideline play, White was in full throttle, had a step on his man, the safety was closing, the ball was thrown to the back shoulder on a low trajectory. Tolzien was a half-beat late getting the throw off, and had to put some mustard on it to the outside to get it there in front of the safety. A receiver looking for that ball inside in full stride, then having brake and reach back for a mistimed throw coming in with some speed is a difficult catch. Drop? Maybe, maybe not. My rule of thumb is that if a guy makes a catch, and we say "great catch" as we would have in this case had he caught it, I would not charge a drop if he happens not to make the catch as in this case, especially given that Tolzien was equally at fault. In the end, I say "no drop". As for your question: "Happier?" As you may have noted, I was not that happy with White's performance to begin with. Knowing you were factually incorrect and excessively harsh in your scoring doesn't make me any happier. I'd like to see White make a difficult downfield catch...that has not happened in 3 years. Now I see that right after you posted 2.5 drops you turned right around and agreed with the Captain, saying what I said here, that it wasn't. That's interesting. Trying to pull something on me, I think? [/QUOTE]
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