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<blockquote data-quote="PackerGeek" data-source="post: 153891" data-attributes="member: 798"><p>You’re right, Brett may not be one of the top ten quarterbacks in the league anymore. But guess what, 2/3’s of the teams in this league don’t have a top ten quarterback. Maybe statistically speaking Grossman put up better numbers than Brett, But if Brett had Devon Hester to give in field position and a speed receiver like Bernard Barrion last year like Grossman did his stats would have blown Grossman’s out of the water. Statistics are just raw data, you have to look at the surrounding factors that affected that data to draw any real conclusions from it. Regardless of how much better you think Grossman or Kitna is than Brett the last time I checked neither of them was under contract for the Green Bay Packers. If Aaron Rodgers or Ingle Martin were or are able to take the starting position from Brett than so be it, until then Brett should be our starter. I know a lot of people think that the packers owe it to Rodgers to give him a chance to play to see how good he is. But really they owe it to the fans who are paying to sit and watch the game to put out the best players who are on the roster. I personally am not willing to pay $80 to sit in the stands and watch Aaron Rodgers get a chance to develop. And believe me I shelled out for 2 games last year and never saw them score a point in either game, but I at least never felt the team had just stopped trying and had decided to make it a training opportunity.</p><p>I will agree that we probably shouldn’t look at the last bears game as reflective of how good this team is. As I recall we barely squeaked past a pretty sorry Vikings team the week prior. I know some people argue that the bears had nothing to play for so they weren’t really trying but I can‘t buy that. Football players are professional competitors who have made it to the highest level in their field. Very few people could accomplish that if they weren’t driven to want to win every game no matter how meaningless. I know there are some like that, but you certainly would never find more than 1 or 2 on a team who don’t give it their all no matter what. Regardless you can’t look at that game and not see that the packers were a different team than they had been. They ran better routes. The ball was on time and where it should be every time. Defense was on fire and special teams players stayed in their lanes and made tackles. The problem is that they hadn’t played to that level all year so I can’t say it’s indicative how good they are. What it is, is indicative how good they could be. So in that respect its is something to build on.</p><p></p><p>Okay I’m done rambling now</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PackerGeek, post: 153891, member: 798"] You’re right, Brett may not be one of the top ten quarterbacks in the league anymore. But guess what, 2/3’s of the teams in this league don’t have a top ten quarterback. Maybe statistically speaking Grossman put up better numbers than Brett, But if Brett had Devon Hester to give in field position and a speed receiver like Bernard Barrion last year like Grossman did his stats would have blown Grossman’s out of the water. Statistics are just raw data, you have to look at the surrounding factors that affected that data to draw any real conclusions from it. Regardless of how much better you think Grossman or Kitna is than Brett the last time I checked neither of them was under contract for the Green Bay Packers. If Aaron Rodgers or Ingle Martin were or are able to take the starting position from Brett than so be it, until then Brett should be our starter. I know a lot of people think that the packers owe it to Rodgers to give him a chance to play to see how good he is. But really they owe it to the fans who are paying to sit and watch the game to put out the best players who are on the roster. I personally am not willing to pay $80 to sit in the stands and watch Aaron Rodgers get a chance to develop. And believe me I shelled out for 2 games last year and never saw them score a point in either game, but I at least never felt the team had just stopped trying and had decided to make it a training opportunity. I will agree that we probably shouldn’t look at the last bears game as reflective of how good this team is. As I recall we barely squeaked past a pretty sorry Vikings team the week prior. I know some people argue that the bears had nothing to play for so they weren’t really trying but I can‘t buy that. Football players are professional competitors who have made it to the highest level in their field. Very few people could accomplish that if they weren’t driven to want to win every game no matter how meaningless. I know there are some like that, but you certainly would never find more than 1 or 2 on a team who don’t give it their all no matter what. Regardless you can’t look at that game and not see that the packers were a different team than they had been. They ran better routes. The ball was on time and where it should be every time. Defense was on fire and special teams players stayed in their lanes and made tackles. The problem is that they hadn’t played to that level all year so I can’t say it’s indicative how good they are. What it is, is indicative how good they could be. So in that respect its is something to build on. Okay I’m done rambling now [/QUOTE]
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