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<blockquote data-quote="Quientus" data-source="post: 258980" data-attributes="member: 1834"><p>Alot has been said already ... however ... Rodgers is a good quarterback, but lacks some serious pocket presence as well as other "intangibles" ... Qualities that he needs to improve on, if he is going to be a true "Top Quarterback" ...</p><p></p><p>Rodgers vs. Peyton Manning - Manning (either runner up or shared MVP)</p><p>Rodgers vs. Brett Favre - Favre (my pick for MVP this season)</p><p>Rodgers vs. Tom Brady - Brady</p><p>Rodgers vs. Drew Brees - Brees </p><p>Rodgers vs. Ben Rothlisberger - Rothlisberger</p><p>Rodgers vs. Kurt Warner - Warner (who has been rather underrated)</p><p>Rodgers vs. Tony Romo - 50/50, could plead for either here really</p><p>Rodgers vs. Eli Manning - 50/50, see above</p><p>Rodgers vs. Ryan Flacco - Rodgers</p><p>Rodgers vs. Jay Cutler - Rodgers</p><p></p><p>Above are just 10 quarterback comparisons by me, while Rodgers stats have been impressive, stats alone do not tell the "whole story" ..., however really "good" quarterback have a tremendous impact on their respective teams ... Something that Rodgers have not had as of yet ...</p><p></p><p>Ex. the Colts have pretty much "dismantled" alot of their team, especially their offensive line, and many "experts" actually say that the Colts offensive line is worse talentwise than the Packers, yet Manning is making all the difference ... - Same way Favre had a huge impact on the 2007 Packers team - Not the entire difference, however, anyone who fails to acknowledge the difference, just don't get it ...</p><p></p><p>The Cardinals doesn't have that great of an offensive line either ... And Warner has been making alot more erratic plays and fumbles while pressured than most other "top tier" quarterbacks ... Especially the past few seasons ... - Again, the Cardinals are doing rather well, and Warner does make very good plays as well as showing more pocket presence when the game counts ...</p><p></p><p>"Top Quarterback" to me, would indicate atleast a top5 quality quarterback ... and while Rodgers (again) have very impressive stats, those stats have been highly misleading, especially because (lack of pocket presence will get you sacked alot and) sacks don't count against the rating ... In the past few games the Packers have played pretty good, however, barring one win against the Cowboys (at home where they pretty shut the Cowboys out) the other two wins have been against very weak teams, much like the 2 wins against the Lions and Browns leading up to the Vikings @ Packers game ...</p><p></p><p>The Game against the Ravens by all accounts should tell everyone a whole lot more about the whether or not the Packers are going to make the play offs, and the game against the Steelers (how the Packers play the Steelers away regardless of winning or losing) will be the "real" indication of how well the Packers may or may not fare in the play offs later in the season ...</p><p></p><p>But to consistenly say that Rodgers is a "top quarterback", while in the same breath diminishing the impact Favre has had on the Vikings or on the 2007 Packers (as well as the other 16 years in Green Bay) is far fetched ...</p><p></p><p>- How fickle the memory is ... Only ONE single losing season in 17 seasons so far should tell you alot ... - Even a winning season in a whole new offensive system (while with the Jets) should tell you about how football savy Favre is ... Especially compared to Rodgers at *this* point ...</p><p></p><p>The time for getting success (play off runs) for the Packers and the Management is running short ... Especially if Favre decides to return to play in the 2010 season as well ... Some times I wonder if Mark Murphy will acually last longer than Ted Thomson and McCarthy ...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quientus, post: 258980, member: 1834"] Alot has been said already ... however ... Rodgers is a good quarterback, but lacks some serious pocket presence as well as other "intangibles" ... Qualities that he needs to improve on, if he is going to be a true "Top Quarterback" ... Rodgers vs. Peyton Manning - Manning (either runner up or shared MVP) Rodgers vs. Brett Favre - Favre (my pick for MVP this season) Rodgers vs. Tom Brady - Brady Rodgers vs. Drew Brees - Brees Rodgers vs. Ben Rothlisberger - Rothlisberger Rodgers vs. Kurt Warner - Warner (who has been rather underrated) Rodgers vs. Tony Romo - 50/50, could plead for either here really Rodgers vs. Eli Manning - 50/50, see above Rodgers vs. Ryan Flacco - Rodgers Rodgers vs. Jay Cutler - Rodgers Above are just 10 quarterback comparisons by me, while Rodgers stats have been impressive, stats alone do not tell the "whole story" ..., however really "good" quarterback have a tremendous impact on their respective teams ... Something that Rodgers have not had as of yet ... Ex. the Colts have pretty much "dismantled" alot of their team, especially their offensive line, and many "experts" actually say that the Colts offensive line is worse talentwise than the Packers, yet Manning is making all the difference ... - Same way Favre had a huge impact on the 2007 Packers team - Not the entire difference, however, anyone who fails to acknowledge the difference, just don't get it ... The Cardinals doesn't have that great of an offensive line either ... And Warner has been making alot more erratic plays and fumbles while pressured than most other "top tier" quarterbacks ... Especially the past few seasons ... - Again, the Cardinals are doing rather well, and Warner does make very good plays as well as showing more pocket presence when the game counts ... "Top Quarterback" to me, would indicate atleast a top5 quality quarterback ... and while Rodgers (again) have very impressive stats, those stats have been highly misleading, especially because (lack of pocket presence will get you sacked alot and) sacks don't count against the rating ... In the past few games the Packers have played pretty good, however, barring one win against the Cowboys (at home where they pretty shut the Cowboys out) the other two wins have been against very weak teams, much like the 2 wins against the Lions and Browns leading up to the Vikings @ Packers game ... The Game against the Ravens by all accounts should tell everyone a whole lot more about the whether or not the Packers are going to make the play offs, and the game against the Steelers (how the Packers play the Steelers away regardless of winning or losing) will be the "real" indication of how well the Packers may or may not fare in the play offs later in the season ... But to consistenly say that Rodgers is a "top quarterback", while in the same breath diminishing the impact Favre has had on the Vikings or on the 2007 Packers (as well as the other 16 years in Green Bay) is far fetched ... - How fickle the memory is ... Only ONE single losing season in 17 seasons so far should tell you alot ... - Even a winning season in a whole new offensive system (while with the Jets) should tell you about how football savy Favre is ... Especially compared to Rodgers at *this* point ... The time for getting success (play off runs) for the Packers and the Management is running short ... Especially if Favre decides to return to play in the 2010 season as well ... Some times I wonder if Mark Murphy will acually last longer than Ted Thomson and McCarthy ... [/QUOTE]
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