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<blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 955284" data-attributes="member: 12283"><p>Some thoughts on positions and what the Packers might be looking for and where they might be looking for it. Offensive first, defense later:</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><u>Quarterback:</u> </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>-What they have: </strong>An MVP who is basically contractually immovable through 2024 and a highly drafted backup.</p><p></p><p><strong>-What they need: </strong>Nothing but camp arms; subject to change in the case of trading Love.</p><p></p><p><strong>-Where they might look: </strong>This would currently be nothing more than a 7th round/UDFA position; if Love is traded, then I would say as early as round 3. </p><p></p><p>-<strong>Example: </strong>If Love is on the roster, someone like <strong>E.J. Perry from Brown</strong> would make sense; if not, than a guy like <strong>Sam Howell (UNC)</strong> or <strong>Jack Coan (ND)</strong> in the middle rounds could be targets.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><u>Running Back:</u> </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>-What they have: </strong>An excellent lead back that they're tied to through 2024, two more years of a quality "1b" runner, and two competitors for a roster spot in Kylin Hill and Patrick Taylor. </p><p></p><p><strong>-What they need: </strong>Nothing but additional competition and camp bodies. </p><p></p><p><strong>-Where they might look: </strong>Undrafted free agency unless a late rounder really appeals to them for some other reason (e.g. special teams). </p><p></p><p><strong>-Example: </strong>One idea would be <strong>D'Vonte Price of FIU</strong>, an athletic back who has ST coverage work in his background. </p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><u>Tight End:</u> </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>-What they have: </strong>An "F" coming off an ACL tear, a quality blocking "Y" nearing retirement, and an "H" with competition (Deguara and Dafney).</p><p></p><p><strong>-What they need: </strong>If they are willing to carry 4 tight ends, an heir apparent to Tonyan or Lewis would make sense, as well as someone who could contribute early while Tonyan is still recovering. </p><p></p><p><strong>-Where they might look: </strong>From day 2 on, I wouldn't rule our TE; it's not a critical need, but if the right guy is there, I won't be shocked.</p><p></p><p>-<strong>Example: </strong>A guy who could help early and for the future would be <strong>Trey McBride of CSU</strong>; at "Y" <strong>Jelani Woods (UVA) </strong>is highly intriguing; a later target I like is <strong>Daniel Bellinger of SDSU. </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><u>Wide Receiver:</u> </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>-What they have: </strong>Players for the slot: Lazard is a power slot, while Cobb and Rodgers are more traditional slot receiver options. </p><p></p><p><strong>-What they need: </strong>A true X who can defeat press, a vertical threat who can stretch defenses, a YAC weapon, and a Z who can align outside. These would not all need to be different players, and I expect that this will be partially addressed before or during the draft with guys who are not rookies. </p><p></p><p><strong>-Where they might look: </strong>Obviously as high as #22 or even a trade up, even if they acquire veteran help. </p><p></p><p><strong>-Example: </strong>X Receivers: <strong>George Pickens (UGA), Alec Pierce (CIN), Christian Watson (NDSU)</strong> (all three vertical threats); YAC: <strong>Treylon Burks (ARK)</strong>; Z Receivers: <strong>Skyy Moore (WMU), Jahan Dotson (PSU), Jalen Tolbert (SAU)</strong>; Pure vertical: <strong>Tyquan Thornton (BAY)</strong>.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><u>Offensive Line:</u> </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>-What they have: </strong>A locked up high end left tackle, a highly drafted center of the future, two young guards in development, a promising swing tackle, and an all-pro caliber OL whose positional future is uncertain (Jenkins). </p><p></p><p><strong>-What they need: </strong>I have the worst grip on OL of any position group on the roster. Left tackle is set and so is center (including, I believe, the backup role). I believe that Runyan is going to be a fixture at a guard spot for a while. Now the questions start: do they like Newman moving forward, or would they prefer him to be a backup? Do they plan to bring Jenkins back at LG or RT? Do they like Nijman as a future starting tackle or is he just playing out the string as a backup? </p><p></p><p>Here's my best guess, and a guess is all it is. Because Jenkins has looked so good at tackle, he will want to be paid like one. If you pay him like a tackle, you better play him like a tackle-- here's your future right tackle when healthy. In that case, what they would need would be interior depth and/or competition at RG. But if the plan involves Jenkins at LG, then you need a tackle for sure-- either depth if you have long terms plans for Nijman, or a new starter. </p><p></p><p><strong>-Where they might look: </strong>Depending on all the caveats above, this could be a round one consideration (new RT or RG) or just a middle round issue where you're looking for depth/competition.</p><p></p><p><strong>-Example: </strong>If they need a tackle of the future: <strong>Trevor Penning, NIU</strong>; If they need a guard for the immediate future: <strong>Zion Johnson, BC</strong>; If they just want depth and competition: <strong>Logan Bruss (WISC), Zach Tom (WF), Thalyer Munford (OSU). </strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dantés, post: 955284, member: 12283"] Some thoughts on positions and what the Packers might be looking for and where they might be looking for it. Offensive first, defense later: [B][U]Quarterback:[/U] -What they have: [/B]An MVP who is basically contractually immovable through 2024 and a highly drafted backup. [B]-What they need: [/B]Nothing but camp arms; subject to change in the case of trading Love. [B]-Where they might look: [/B]This would currently be nothing more than a 7th round/UDFA position; if Love is traded, then I would say as early as round 3. -[B]Example: [/B]If Love is on the roster, someone like [B]E.J. Perry from Brown[/B] would make sense; if not, than a guy like [B]Sam Howell (UNC)[/B] or [B]Jack Coan (ND)[/B] in the middle rounds could be targets. [B][U]Running Back:[/U] -What they have: [/B]An excellent lead back that they're tied to through 2024, two more years of a quality "1b" runner, and two competitors for a roster spot in Kylin Hill and Patrick Taylor. [B]-What they need: [/B]Nothing but additional competition and camp bodies. [B]-Where they might look: [/B]Undrafted free agency unless a late rounder really appeals to them for some other reason (e.g. special teams). [B]-Example: [/B]One idea would be [B]D'Vonte Price of FIU[/B],[B] [/B]an athletic back who has ST coverage work in his background. [B][U]Tight End:[/U] -What they have: [/B]An "F" coming off an ACL tear, a quality blocking "Y" nearing retirement, and an "H" with competition (Deguara and Dafney). [B]-What they need: [/B]If they are willing to carry 4 tight ends, an heir apparent to Tonyan or Lewis would make sense, as well as someone who could contribute early while Tonyan is still recovering. [B]-Where they might look: [/B]From day 2 on, I wouldn't rule our TE; it's not a critical need, but if the right guy is there, I won't be shocked. -[B]Example: [/B]A guy who could help early and for the future would be [B]Trey McBride of CSU[/B]; at "Y" [B]Jelani Woods (UVA) [/B]is highly intriguing; a later target I like is [B]Daniel Bellinger of SDSU. [U]Wide Receiver:[/U] -What they have: [/B]Players for the slot: Lazard is a power slot, while Cobb and Rodgers are more traditional slot receiver options. [B]-What they need: [/B]A true X who can defeat press, a vertical threat who can stretch defenses, a YAC weapon, and a Z who can align outside. These would not all need to be different players, and I expect that this will be partially addressed before or during the draft with guys who are not rookies. [B]-Where they might look: [/B]Obviously[B] [/B]as high as #22 or even a trade up, even if they acquire veteran help. [B]-Example: [/B]X Receivers: [B]George Pickens (UGA), Alec Pierce (CIN), Christian Watson (NDSU)[/B] (all three vertical threats); YAC: [B]Treylon Burks (ARK)[/B]; Z Receivers: [B]Skyy Moore (WMU), Jahan Dotson (PSU), Jalen Tolbert (SAU)[/B]; Pure vertical: [B]Tyquan Thornton (BAY)[/B]. [B][U]Offensive Line:[/U] -What they have: [/B]A locked up high end left tackle, a highly drafted center of the future, two young guards in development, a promising swing tackle, and an all-pro caliber OL whose positional future is uncertain (Jenkins). [B]-What they need: [/B]I have the worst grip on OL of any position group on the roster. Left tackle is set and so is center (including, I believe, the backup role). I believe that Runyan is going to be a fixture at a guard spot for a while. Now the questions start: do they like Newman moving forward, or would they prefer him to be a backup? Do they plan to bring Jenkins back at LG or RT? Do they like Nijman as a future starting tackle or is he just playing out the string as a backup? Here's my best guess, and a guess is all it is. Because Jenkins has looked so good at tackle, he will want to be paid like one. If you pay him like a tackle, you better play him like a tackle-- here's your future right tackle when healthy. In that case, what they would need would be interior depth and/or competition at RG. But if the plan involves Jenkins at LG, then you need a tackle for sure-- either depth if you have long terms plans for Nijman, or a new starter. [B]-Where they might look: [/B]Depending on all the caveats above, this could be a round one consideration (new RT or RG) or just a middle round issue where you're looking for depth/competition. [B]-Example: [/B]If they need a tackle of the future: [B]Trevor Penning, NIU[/B]; If they need a guard for the immediate future: [B]Zion Johnson, BC[/B]; If they just want depth and competition: [B]Logan Bruss (WISC), Zach Tom (WF), Thalyer Munford (OSU). [/B] [/QUOTE]
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