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<blockquote data-quote="PackersRS" data-source="post: 286200" data-attributes="member: 1429"><p>What?????</p><p></p><p>How many starters on D from 2007 played in 2008? KBG didn't, Cullen Jenkins didn't, Corey Williams didn't, Barnett missed a lot of time, Harris missed a lot of time, Bigby missed a lot of time...</p><p></p><p>No, but it was surely Rodgers' fault that the D that was #11 in 2007 fell to #20 in 2008, and #14 in Rush D fell to #26 in 2008...</p><p></p><p>The 2005 Steelers (#4 in total D, #5 in rush O) was way better than the 2008 Packers (.#20 in total D, #17 in rush O). The 2005 Steelers was #25 in Passing O. Roethlisberger, as I said, was important to their win, but with a lesser team, he wouldn't have won anything. GB was #8 in passing O. Sure, a dropoff from #2 a year ago, but if you believe that was the reason, with Rodgers' ratings, you gotta be a complete fool.</p><p></p><p>It doesn't matter what the team did in the prior year, teams change a lot from one season to another. It matters what kind of team the QB had IN THAT YEAR. Unless you think the QB can play DE, CB, DT, ILB, RB, OT...</p><p></p><p>Looking at wins and losses without putting team performance into context is ridiculous.</p><p></p><p>If you remember correctly, Roethlisberger was plain AWFUL in that SB, with 0 Tds and 2 ints, completing a whopping 9 passes for 123 yards.</p><p></p><p>Like I said, in the regular season, he was very good, and in the playoffs he was good too. But you're kidding yourself if you trully believe he was the reason they won the SB, which is the measurement for a great QB.</p><p></p><p>The Ravens and the 2005 Steelers won the SB with Dilfer and Roethlisberger. The Broncos and the Colts won it BECAUSE of Elway and Manning. (In 2008, Roethlisberger was as important to their win as that incredibly dominant D, so then it's another discussion. But one can make a serious case that you change the 06 Manning for the 08 Roethlisberger in 06 and the Colts don't win it, while the reverse wouldn't be true).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PackersRS, post: 286200, member: 1429"] What????? How many starters on D from 2007 played in 2008? KBG didn't, Cullen Jenkins didn't, Corey Williams didn't, Barnett missed a lot of time, Harris missed a lot of time, Bigby missed a lot of time... No, but it was surely Rodgers' fault that the D that was #11 in 2007 fell to #20 in 2008, and #14 in Rush D fell to #26 in 2008... The 2005 Steelers (#4 in total D, #5 in rush O) was way better than the 2008 Packers (.#20 in total D, #17 in rush O). The 2005 Steelers was #25 in Passing O. Roethlisberger, as I said, was important to their win, but with a lesser team, he wouldn't have won anything. GB was #8 in passing O. Sure, a dropoff from #2 a year ago, but if you believe that was the reason, with Rodgers' ratings, you gotta be a complete fool. It doesn't matter what the team did in the prior year, teams change a lot from one season to another. It matters what kind of team the QB had IN THAT YEAR. Unless you think the QB can play DE, CB, DT, ILB, RB, OT... Looking at wins and losses without putting team performance into context is ridiculous. If you remember correctly, Roethlisberger was plain AWFUL in that SB, with 0 Tds and 2 ints, completing a whopping 9 passes for 123 yards. Like I said, in the regular season, he was very good, and in the playoffs he was good too. But you're kidding yourself if you trully believe he was the reason they won the SB, which is the measurement for a great QB. The Ravens and the 2005 Steelers won the SB with Dilfer and Roethlisberger. The Broncos and the Colts won it BECAUSE of Elway and Manning. (In 2008, Roethlisberger was as important to their win as that incredibly dominant D, so then it's another discussion. But one can make a serious case that you change the 06 Manning for the 08 Roethlisberger in 06 and the Colts don't win it, while the reverse wouldn't be true). [/QUOTE]
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