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Absolutely disgusted with the playcalling..
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<blockquote data-quote="TJV" data-source="post: 475897" data-attributes="member: 4300"><p><span style="color: #000000"> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">No, I'm one of those guys who uses stats for a game, season, series of seasons, or a career to support my point(s), knowing that they don't tell the whole story but are evidence to be interpreted and reconciled. </span> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">There's no way for the rest of us to know whether or not that is true. And I really don't care because whether or not your criticism was contemporaneous or using hindsight, it's wrong.</span><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"> </span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">You apparently are one of those guys who uses generalizations and doesn't address specific points when disagreeing with another's point of view. If you would like to address actual points I made in my post, here's summary:</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000000"><u>The trick play</u>:</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000000">1. Rodgers had plenty of time and was not hit in spite of the state of the OL and the time the route took to run.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000000">2. Jennings was open on the play.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000000">3. <strong>Therefore, the play caller did his job</strong>. The play failed because of the execution of the QB. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000000"><u>Running the ball on second and long</u>:</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000000">1. The Packers converted a high percentage of third downs into first downs, therefore running on second down was generally successful. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000000">2. The Packers had one of their best games of the season running the ball (measured either by average per rush or total net rushing yards) resulting in a significant advantage in time of possession. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000000"><u>The inherent contradiction in the OP</u>:</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000000">You complain about the Packers having "… one of the most atrocious O-Lines in the game at the moment…" and then criticize the play caller for recognizing the problems on the OL by calling a 32-35 run-pass mix (removing Rodgers' four rushes), thus winning the TOP and protecting his QB from further hits. In your terms, Rodgers can't "do his thing" behind an "atrocious OL". </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000000">Whether or not the Packers will be able to win a playoff game or make a run in the playoffs will have a lot more to do with the health of the team and the quick progress of the reserves, particularly along the OL than anything else. IMO if the Packers go into the playoffs with an OL of <s>Sherrod</s>Newhouse-Hyphon-Saturday-Sitton-Barclay the team won't win three playoff games and it'll have nothing to do with the play calling. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000000">Larrivee made the point today that the 2010 season is different from this one because the injuries had stopped at this point of the '10 season. Yesterday the Packers get Jennings back and lose Nelson. They're thin on the OL and lose Lang. Matthews has lost a lot of time - will he be back 100% this year? If they can make the playoffs "anything" can happen but it's not looking good to me at this point. And that has <em>nothing</em> to do with the play-calling. And someone who holds the opinion that the Packers have "… one of the most atrocious O-Lines in the game at the moment…" while talking about playoff success is another contradiction. </span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TJV, post: 475897, member: 4300"] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Georgia] [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]No, I'm one of those guys who uses stats for a game, season, series of seasons, or a career to support my point(s), knowing that they don't tell the whole story but are evidence to be interpreted and reconciled. [/FONT][FONT=Georgia] [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]There's no way for the rest of us to know whether or not that is true. And I really don't care because whether or not your criticism was contemporaneous or using hindsight, it's wrong.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia] [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]You apparently are one of those guys who uses generalizations and doesn't address specific points when disagreeing with another's point of view. If you would like to address actual points I made in my post, here's summary:[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000][U]The trick play[/U]:[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000]1. Rodgers had plenty of time and was not hit in spite of the state of the OL and the time the route took to run.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000]2. Jennings was open on the play.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000]3. [B]Therefore, the play caller did his job[/B]. The play failed because of the execution of the QB. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000][U]Running the ball on second and long[/U]:[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000]1. The Packers converted a high percentage of third downs into first downs, therefore running on second down was generally successful. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000]2. The Packers had one of their best games of the season running the ball (measured either by average per rush or total net rushing yards) resulting in a significant advantage in time of possession. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000][U]The inherent contradiction in the OP[/U]:[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000]You complain about the Packers having "… one of the most atrocious O-Lines in the game at the moment…" and then criticize the play caller for recognizing the problems on the OL by calling a 32-35 run-pass mix (removing Rodgers' four rushes), thus winning the TOP and protecting his QB from further hits. In your terms, Rodgers can't "do his thing" behind an "atrocious OL". [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000]Whether or not the Packers will be able to win a playoff game or make a run in the playoffs will have a lot more to do with the health of the team and the quick progress of the reserves, particularly along the OL than anything else. IMO if the Packers go into the playoffs with an OL of [S]Sherrod[/S]Newhouse-Hyphon-Saturday-Sitton-Barclay the team won't win three playoff games and it'll have nothing to do with the play calling. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000000]Larrivee made the point today that the 2010 season is different from this one because the injuries had stopped at this point of the '10 season. Yesterday the Packers get Jennings back and lose Nelson. They're thin on the OL and lose Lang. Matthews has lost a lot of time - will he be back 100% this year? If they can make the playoffs "anything" can happen but it's not looking good to me at this point. And that has [I]nothing[/I] to do with the play-calling. And someone who holds the opinion that the Packers have "… one of the most atrocious O-Lines in the game at the moment…" while talking about playoff success is another contradiction. [/COLOR][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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