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<blockquote data-quote="ivo610" data-source="post: 278112" data-attributes="member: 2128"><p>You did say that but I never argued that point about event worn items, it would be irresponsible of me to edit that post. I just took the whole thing and cut and pasted it. I never said anything about rookie photo shoots, I posted that because we disagreed on COAs among other things.</p><p></p><p>The jerseys are owned by the team then sold or given away. The players have no rights to the jerseys (unless special arrangements are made such as peyton manning for his peyback foundation or Favre for his pilot). Its fraud and its in the hands of the FBI but I dont think the player has much of a shake in the whole thing. If Topps was going to make a deal for equipment they would most likely make a deal with a team. Sometimes they buy from an auction house. They say they think everything they sell is legit but that is not the case as any collector will tell you. </p><p></p><p>I assume your talking about the HBO real sports video? </p><p></p><p>As far as Favre goes there is no proof that he willingly signed items that were fake but the stories are out there that say he just cared about the $ and would swear at people who questioned him when he signed items that clearly were not game worn. Here is a great article about a situation that sadely became common place with favres equipment in the past 10 years.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.com/upload/images/PDF/favre.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.com/upload/images/PDF/favre.pdf</a></p><p></p><p>I never said all game worn jersey cards were fake, I said most. I think if you picked 100 random game worn jersey cards on ebay, over 50 would be fake. Maybe I just feel that way because this business is one of fraud and forgery. With little or no way of proving a swatch is real, the opportunity is huge to commit fraud.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ivo610, post: 278112, member: 2128"] You did say that but I never argued that point about event worn items, it would be irresponsible of me to edit that post. I just took the whole thing and cut and pasted it. I never said anything about rookie photo shoots, I posted that because we disagreed on COAs among other things. The jerseys are owned by the team then sold or given away. The players have no rights to the jerseys (unless special arrangements are made such as peyton manning for his peyback foundation or Favre for his pilot). Its fraud and its in the hands of the FBI but I dont think the player has much of a shake in the whole thing. If Topps was going to make a deal for equipment they would most likely make a deal with a team. Sometimes they buy from an auction house. They say they think everything they sell is legit but that is not the case as any collector will tell you. I assume your talking about the HBO real sports video? As far as Favre goes there is no proof that he willingly signed items that were fake but the stories are out there that say he just cared about the $ and would swear at people who questioned him when he signed items that clearly were not game worn. Here is a great article about a situation that sadely became common place with favres equipment in the past 10 years. [url]http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.com/upload/images/PDF/favre.pdf[/url] I never said all game worn jersey cards were fake, I said most. I think if you picked 100 random game worn jersey cards on ebay, over 50 would be fake. Maybe I just feel that way because this business is one of fraud and forgery. With little or no way of proving a swatch is real, the opportunity is huge to commit fraud. [/QUOTE]
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