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<blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 832753" data-attributes="member: 12283"><p>By virtue of what they do, PFF is always going to favor production over traits. As a company, they basically dismiss the entire concept of "upside." Unfortunately for them, upside exists in the draft and sometimes traits translate even if they weren't super productive in college. </p><p></p><p>Gary is interesting to me... he was one of the more polarizing figures in this class. If you imagine a continuum like this:</p><p></p><p>NFL FO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amateur Tape Watcher</p><p></p><p>It seems like the further we move to the left, the higher Gary was regarded. So you have guys like Daniel Jeremiah who have worked in NFL front offices and Pro Scouting Services that sell their reports to NFL teams who regarded him as a top ten prospect, and then as you move to the right you have more amateur services like PFF and TDN that didn't regard him as a first round talent.</p><p></p><p>I think that makes him an interesting case study moving forward. </p><p></p><p>The fact is that both sides can offer examples-- we can all point to high end talent that blossomed in the NFL despite underwhelming production in college and we can all point to high end talent that didn't produce at either level.</p><p></p><p>One thing I will add is that Brian Baldinger mentioned in a breakdown that Gary was playing through multiple issues last year in his knees and shoulders. That might help explain why he went from 12/6 TFL/sack in 2017 to 7.5/3.5 in 2018.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dantés, post: 832753, member: 12283"] By virtue of what they do, PFF is always going to favor production over traits. As a company, they basically dismiss the entire concept of "upside." Unfortunately for them, upside exists in the draft and sometimes traits translate even if they weren't super productive in college. Gary is interesting to me... he was one of the more polarizing figures in this class. If you imagine a continuum like this: NFL FO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amateur Tape Watcher It seems like the further we move to the left, the higher Gary was regarded. So you have guys like Daniel Jeremiah who have worked in NFL front offices and Pro Scouting Services that sell their reports to NFL teams who regarded him as a top ten prospect, and then as you move to the right you have more amateur services like PFF and TDN that didn't regard him as a first round talent. I think that makes him an interesting case study moving forward. The fact is that both sides can offer examples-- we can all point to high end talent that blossomed in the NFL despite underwhelming production in college and we can all point to high end talent that didn't produce at either level. One thing I will add is that Brian Baldinger mentioned in a breakdown that Gary was playing through multiple issues last year in his knees and shoulders. That might help explain why he went from 12/6 TFL/sack in 2017 to 7.5/3.5 in 2018. [/QUOTE]
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