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<blockquote data-quote="HardRightEdge" data-source="post: 858202"><p>There may be a knucklehead or two accounting for some of that. I think the more likely scenario is some voters who had T.J. Watt as their #3 edge rusher, and thereby couldn't give him a vote at his position, liked him enough as a player over the off-the-ball candidate "Linebackers" thay threw him a vote out of position.</p><p></p><p>Z. also go a vote as an off-the-ball linebacker. Is that a knuckhead vote or is it, "F*ck the position designations, he's too good to leave out." Well, when you see the other 1/2 dozen or so edge players getting a vote or two at Linebacker, I'd say there's a fair amount of "f*ck you" in the equation. I'm pretty sure all the voters know Miller and Mack, among others, do not play off the ball and we see them getting votes there.</p><p></p><p>The "Flex" voting is odd. Now you've got both first and second teams a player short with guys playing two positions. Voters clearly don't like the idea of one RB vote and kinda defied the idea of Flex which should be a slot receiver, or a TE in certain offenses that use two a lot, or RBs who spend more time split out than these guys. All you get here is the skill position player that a voter likes best after he's run out of votes at the standard positions.</p><p></p><p>The "Defensive Back" category is a joke. Peters and Humphries made the first team as DBs while getting only one CB vote between them. They each got 7 DB votes as some voters 5th. best DB one presumes. Sherman on the other hand got 10 CB votes, and because of that only 1 DB vote. They're all perimeter corners, and the voters liked Sherman better. A couple of voters interpreted this DB postion as "slot corner", with Tramon Williams and Chris Harris getting a couple of votes, to take a two examples, but not many looked at it that way.</p><p></p><p>If you're going to have this seperate DB position, just give the nod to the CB or S with the next highest vote total (Sherman) or keep the voting category and name the 5th. DB as the guy who has the most CB or S plus DB votes (Mathieu). Or better yet, make them vote for slot corners. Of course voters would have to figure out who they are and what they do which might be a burden. <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/whistling.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":whistling:" title="Whistling :whistling:" data-shortname=":whistling:" /> As it stands, a miscount is embedded in the struture.</p><p></p><p>I'm actually starting to like the Pro Bowl voting better, for all its obvious flaws. At least a wider net is cast with fewer worthy names getting left off, sadly not the case for Z. We have an instance in the All Pro defensive backfield where the system doesn't even know how to count.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardRightEdge, post: 858202"] There may be a knucklehead or two accounting for some of that. I think the more likely scenario is some voters who had T.J. Watt as their #3 edge rusher, and thereby couldn't give him a vote at his position, liked him enough as a player over the off-the-ball candidate "Linebackers" thay threw him a vote out of position. Z. also go a vote as an off-the-ball linebacker. Is that a knuckhead vote or is it, "F*ck the position designations, he's too good to leave out." Well, when you see the other 1/2 dozen or so edge players getting a vote or two at Linebacker, I'd say there's a fair amount of "f*ck you" in the equation. I'm pretty sure all the voters know Miller and Mack, among others, do not play off the ball and we see them getting votes there. The "Flex" voting is odd. Now you've got both first and second teams a player short with guys playing two positions. Voters clearly don't like the idea of one RB vote and kinda defied the idea of Flex which should be a slot receiver, or a TE in certain offenses that use two a lot, or RBs who spend more time split out than these guys. All you get here is the skill position player that a voter likes best after he's run out of votes at the standard positions. The "Defensive Back" category is a joke. Peters and Humphries made the first team as DBs while getting only one CB vote between them. They each got 7 DB votes as some voters 5th. best DB one presumes. Sherman on the other hand got 10 CB votes, and because of that only 1 DB vote. They're all perimeter corners, and the voters liked Sherman better. A couple of voters interpreted this DB postion as "slot corner", with Tramon Williams and Chris Harris getting a couple of votes, to take a two examples, but not many looked at it that way. If you're going to have this seperate DB position, just give the nod to the CB or S with the next highest vote total (Sherman) or keep the voting category and name the 5th. DB as the guy who has the most CB or S plus DB votes (Mathieu). Or better yet, make them vote for slot corners. Of course voters would have to figure out who they are and what they do which might be a burden. :whistling: As it stands, a miscount is embedded in the struture. I'm actually starting to like the Pro Bowl voting better, for all its obvious flaws. At least a wider net is cast with fewer worthy names getting left off, sadly not the case for Z. We have an instance in the All Pro defensive backfield where the system doesn't even know how to count. [/QUOTE]
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