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<blockquote data-quote="Bruce" data-source="post: 124617" data-attributes="member: 196"><p>I think I was just fair 'plain and simple', kind of like baby bear's porridge "just right!"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why? Because they were rookies learning the NFL game? </p><p></p><p>What I pointed out was that they all battled and hung in there. Each made progress and learned as they went. It will be critical to have them develop a good deal during the offseason, but as I pointed out all three have the bodies that leave room for growth -- each with different needs. This is where the Packers investment in Rock, et al come into play. BTW Colledge is a great athlete who is going to get better -- the comparisons to a young Wahle are very fair; and Moll was a TE two seasons ago -- the guy's upside potential caught me by surprise. Tony is far from a finished product, but he has plugged in wherever the team has asked him to go -- I see him developing into a talented backup for next season with a bright future if he continues to battle and work anywhere near the level he seems to be willing to so far in his young NFL career.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, no one would dispute they contributed to those losses, but to lay it all on these young men's backs denies the realities of football as the ultimate <em>TEAM</em> sport. I named that all three struggled at times and the team paid a price for going young in '06', but I am not sure that they had a whole lot of options available after failing with FA in '05'.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, yes this is true. But it is something that has been hashed and rehashed over and over. Once he made the decision (after failing to replace Wahle and Rivera with even serviceable replacements in '05') it is what this team had to play with. When you go young, you look for growth, development and improvement -- which was the premise of the thread. I would agree that it should be noted if the thread was an evaluation of TT piece, but rather it was a piece on the offensive line's journey and future -- which is why I gave that so little ink.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is nothing in the character of any of the three to make one wonder about complacency. In fact, all three have strong work ethics that would point in the opposite direction.</p><p></p><p>And a solid legit opinion it is. I must point out however, that trades are very rare in the NFL today -- unless you are talking about 3rd tier players -- which I would certainly support if the deal made sense for the Pack bring in competition. A FA pick-up is another possibility that I would support, but looking at the players available, I am not seeing anyone who is particularly exciting or that I am certain could make the starting lineup. </p><p></p><p>Given the needs at several other positions I do not expect this to be a position that gets flooded with activity in the draft or free agency. Rather, I expect some 2nd or 3rd tier FA signings and perhaps a draft choice expended. Frankly, IMO I think TT will need to see how the off-season workouts are going and who is or is not available before he can decide for certain. </p><p></p><p>The positives I pointed out was that of possibilities, not those of sure things. But any <strong>fair analysis</strong> would see the positive development and the upside of these three young men</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bruce, post: 124617, member: 196"] I think I was just fair 'plain and simple', kind of like baby bear's porridge "just right!" Why? Because they were rookies learning the NFL game? What I pointed out was that they all battled and hung in there. Each made progress and learned as they went. It will be critical to have them develop a good deal during the offseason, but as I pointed out all three have the bodies that leave room for growth -- each with different needs. This is where the Packers investment in Rock, et al come into play. BTW Colledge is a great athlete who is going to get better -- the comparisons to a young Wahle are very fair; and Moll was a TE two seasons ago -- the guy's upside potential caught me by surprise. Tony is far from a finished product, but he has plugged in wherever the team has asked him to go -- I see him developing into a talented backup for next season with a bright future if he continues to battle and work anywhere near the level he seems to be willing to so far in his young NFL career. Yes, no one would dispute they contributed to those losses, but to lay it all on these young men's backs denies the realities of football as the ultimate [i]TEAM[/i] sport. I named that all three struggled at times and the team paid a price for going young in '06', but I am not sure that they had a whole lot of options available after failing with FA in '05'. Again, yes this is true. But it is something that has been hashed and rehashed over and over. Once he made the decision (after failing to replace Wahle and Rivera with even serviceable replacements in '05') it is what this team had to play with. When you go young, you look for growth, development and improvement -- which was the premise of the thread. I would agree that it should be noted if the thread was an evaluation of TT piece, but rather it was a piece on the offensive line's journey and future -- which is why I gave that so little ink. There is nothing in the character of any of the three to make one wonder about complacency. In fact, all three have strong work ethics that would point in the opposite direction. And a solid legit opinion it is. I must point out however, that trades are very rare in the NFL today -- unless you are talking about 3rd tier players -- which I would certainly support if the deal made sense for the Pack bring in competition. A FA pick-up is another possibility that I would support, but looking at the players available, I am not seeing anyone who is particularly exciting or that I am certain could make the starting lineup. Given the needs at several other positions I do not expect this to be a position that gets flooded with activity in the draft or free agency. Rather, I expect some 2nd or 3rd tier FA signings and perhaps a draft choice expended. Frankly, IMO I think TT will need to see how the off-season workouts are going and who is or is not available before he can decide for certain. The positives I pointed out was that of possibilities, not those of sure things. But any [b]fair analysis[/b] would see the positive development and the upside of these three young men [/QUOTE]
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