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Message: <blockquote data-quote="IPBprez" data-source="post: 25352" data-attributes="member: 51">Good point - at this stage of the season, everyone is re-hashing commentary we're hearing since the first week (Detroit) on Sports TV.  Losing Marco just has not translated into anything as disastrous as what Michael Irvin & Co would have you believe.....In the last two years  - one of the biggest losses the TEAM suffered was the loss of Ed Donatell.  Certainly, gaining Jim Bates balances out that loss, but last year could have been better, ....much better... It would have been nice to see Mike Wahle become a franchise player without actually designating him as one.... and then see him sign on for five more years with a re-structured contract - but Wahle was right, his family comes first.. and College is just around the corner for his kids...Even so - pending Wahle had stayed, while Rivera left... not sure things would be any different.. especially with the O-Line trying to re-incorporate Flanagan... which hasn't worked yet.... and now, won't - I figure Flanagan to retire after this Season.</blockquote>

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