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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Forget Favre" data-source="post: 376810" data-attributes="member: 2006">I have managed and played on various softball teams through the years each summer. And here is one thing I have learned. No matter how much coaching is done or practices we have, there will be certain players who will never be better than they already are. Like there are a couple of girls who will never be able to hit the ball past the infield no matter how many batting practice hits they get. My point is that it takes more than just determination. It takes talent. And if the talent isn't there, then it's just hopeless to win no matter how much desire there is to do so even after a loss or two.And I think the Packers are a talented enough team that they don't need any losses for a wake up call.</blockquote>

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