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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raptorman" data-source="post: 569925" data-attributes="member: 655">I did not say that a great defense would win by itself.  Read my post again.  I specifically stated that a great offense is not needed if you have a really good defense. And I will stand by that. You do need good offense.   So what is a really good defense?  A defense that holds teams to under 20 points a game. What's a great defense?  One that hold a team to under 15 points per game.  What is a great offense?  One that scores more than 26 ppgs. Fact of the matter is only six teams that have  allowed more than 20 ppg have ever won the Super Bowl. And of those 6 only one had and offense that scored more that 7 ppg more then what the defense allowed..I assume when you are talking about ranking you are talking about yards, not points.  I am talking strictly points.  Because yards don't count towards winning games.   For example the 2001 Patriots they were not in the top ten in yards, (19th) but they were (6th) in points scored. How do you rank them? Great or not?   Now their defense was ranked 6th in points and 24th in yards that year.    If your offense is not scoring an average of 8 ppg more than you what you defense is giving up, it is going to be tough to win the Super Bowl. Very few teams have done it.  Both sides of the game are important.   You do not need a great offense, you need a good enough offense that scores more than 8ppg more then what your defense gives up.  It's a balance if you will.  If your defense gives up 25 ppg you offense needs to be fantastic, not just great. Unless of course you are the Giants who are the only team to win the Super Bowl with  negative point differential during the regular season.   Of course there are always exceptions,  and it's not guarantee that you will make it to the Super Bowl, I said it was an good indicator.  If your team is only winning by 3 ppg during the year, it's not a good sign.</blockquote>

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